[UI] ToolBuilder

[Bill Schwab]

Jason,

You are more of an expert than you think.  That said, I am a firm
believer in having both graphical and programmatic builders.  If we
offer only one, the other will be missed (or should be).  To the extent
that we can save work as either code or serialized objects (ideally with
a pluggable filer), I think we are better off than relying on the image
for persistence.

If we decide to build a clean windowing system from the ground up,
that's fine with me.  It is a tall order, because we have to replace
morphic and the IDE.  But with folks like Gary and Colin among us and on
board with the idea, we should be able to get it done.  The result
should be well worth the effort.

Bill




Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of Anesthesiology
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>>> jason.johnson.081 at gmail.com 09/09/07 11:53 AM >>>
On 9/9/07, Bill Schwab <BSchwab at anest.ufl.edu> wrote:
> Jason,
>
> I respectfully submit that you are indeed off base :)

I can accept that, I'm by no means an export.  But where am I off
base?  If I can't find that out I can't correct my misconceptions.
What I read in your argument was basically "Morphic is what we have".
That is valid, but if we are considering making the definitive UI for
Squeak I think we need to get off to the right foot, or at least know
what it is.

Your point about wanting a builder is certainly valid, but we can have
that for any View framework we build.  If Morphic isn't a fit lets at
least plan to drop it for something that is.  I appreciate someone put
a lot of work in coming up with Morphic and people have put in effort
bringing it to Squeak, but the point of experimenting is to be able to
say "well, it didn't work".

And I also agree about Tweak.

Oh, and I'm up for doing what I can to build MVP from the ground up.
I think it's the right thing to do.
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