[Webteam] Notice about the etoys license

Janko Mivšek janko.mivsek at eranova.si
Sat Nov 8 15:55:50 UTC 2008


I'm just checking Google stats and license page has currently the 
highest pagerank, therefore we really need to take care about its content.

About mentioning EToys license , isn't EToys a part of standard Squeak 
distribution? Or at least some code of it. If so, we need to at least 
mention the license of EToys and provide a link to its website.

 From quick look at the license page and from history I'd conclude that 
it is under Apache license but further down the Apple license is states. 
But it is titled as Official Squeak license. Well, this is really 
confusing and need to be corrected ASAP.

We need a word from a Leadership, from Craig I suppose, about changing 
the exact license on that page?

Janko

Ken Causey wrote:
> Further regarding the current SqueakLicense page:
> 
> In my opinion the content on this page should be replaced with the
> original 'Squeak License' since I believe there are links to this page
> expecting the actual Squeak License (the license by that name, not the
> license for a given version of Squeak).
> 
> Another page should be created that as succinctly as possible explains
> the current license status and secondarily the history and links as
> appropriate to seperate pages (either internally or externally) for each
> license.  A link could be put prominently on the SqueakLicense page
> pointing to this new page if the reader is looking for overall licensing
> information.  And any existing links on the site that mean to refer to
> license status and not explicitly the 'Squeak License' should be changed
> to point to the new page.
> 
> Ken
> 
> On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 18:16 -0600, Ken Causey wrote:
>> I strongly disagree and believe this would further confuse the issue.
>> www.squeak.org and ftp.squeak.org represent the project that develops
>> and distributes Squeak, but not Squeak Etoys.  Any license information
>> should be closely connected to the distribution point for a piece of
>> software and vice versa.  We do not distribute Squeak Etoys, why should
>> we be maintaining licensing information for that piece of software?
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 16:51 -0700, Matthew Fulmer wrote:
>>> There is ongoing discussion about including etoys in debian,
>>> fedora, and ubuntu. Several people have looked at
>>>
>>> http://squeak.org/SqueakLicense/
>>>
>>> and are confused, as that license is not the MIT/Apache license
>>> that we are advertising etoys to be available under. For the
>>> latest discussion, see the emails with the subject "Sugar in
>>> Edubuntu":
>>>
>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2008-November/thread.html
>>>
>>> I would like to add the following notice to the top of the page:
>>>
>>>
>>> Notice regarding Etoys
>>>
>>> Etoys 4, a product derived from Squeak and distributed
>>> with Sugar<http://sugarlabs.org> and the One Laptop Per
>>> Child<http://laptop.org>, is no longer distributed under the
>>> license listed on this page. Its licensing terms are described
>>> at Viewpoints Research Institute<http://www.vpri.org/vp_wiki>,
>>> the copyright holder for Squeak and Etoys
>>>
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