Squeak-dev May 1998

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Re: Squeak 2.0 Beta Release
by CYNTHIA NELSON 09 May '98

09 May '98

At 01:43 AM 5/9/98 -0700, you wrote: >Folks - > >I have just placed a beta release of Squeak 2.0 on the uiuc server. > (Hey, it's still Friday in Hawaii ;-) > >It is stored in mac binary form as a self-extracting archive containing image, changes, and a new VM (Mac only). HMMMM....I guess this means 2.0 only runs on the Mac now. I thought maybe if I could get to the C code, I could just recompile it using C or Visual C++ on NT or 95. I actually did compile the code for ver 1.23 in December using the MS VisualStudio for C and C++ and it worked fine. When I downloaded 1.31 it seemed to be fairly well "boxed up" for Windows so I did not have to compile that one. This morning I did manage to crash my NT Server while playing around with the unzipped Squeak 2.0 files and the C compiler. No....it was not amusing but I did manage to get the machine back to an error free state. I was hoping someone might give me some advice about how I might go about this adventure. For now I guess I will just use ver 1.31 and look forward to 2.0 later. I am particularly interested in seeing the added sound features. Thanks, Cindy Nelson **************************************************************************** Cynthia L. Nelson Phone: (770) 382-8627 202 Jimmie Nelson Rd SW Fax (770) 382-8630 Kington, GA 30145 e-mail: cindynelson(a)abraxis.com

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Squeak 2.0 on WindowsCE
by Alejandro F. Reimondo 09 May '98

09 May '98

I'm working to port Squeak 1.3x to WinCE platform. Changes that has been made to version 1.2 must be redone when porting to 1.3x, but considering VM upgrade too. If we will have a release version of Sq2.0 I will greatly appreciate the porting to be considered in the new version of the VM for Windows Platform. My 1.3 version of VM is starting to run but with some minor problems, I want to help in the new 2.0 version; but I don't know if I want to continue working on 1.3 or start with beta of 2.0 when available for windows. What can I do? continue with 1.3 or wait to 2.0 ... Another question: I try to shrink the image with the recommended method, but an unhandled error in the last stage cause my smalltalk to exit to system. Must I try to see what is happening or is recommended to continue using the 1.2 image. I'm interested in squeak 1.3VM to implement sqAPIs on WinCE; and if I can do this, it will be a good Smalltak platform to develop applications using THE Casiopeia and not a ridiculous +64Mb WinNT Station to write stupid C++ or Basic code (and wait +20min to test code when it is changed). Ale.

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Re: Squeak 2.0 Beta Release
by stp＠limbo.create.ucsb.edu 09 May '98

09 May '98

DanI wrote, > I have just placed a beta release of Squeak 2.0 on the uiuc server. > ... > it would be nice if someone else could see to the appropriate > repackaging for the other major platforms For those without a Mac to decode the "self-extracting" files, I've unpacked the 2.0Beta distribution and placed the individual files in ftp://ftp.create.ucsb.edu/pub/Squeak/2.0Beta. stp _ Stephen Travis Pope _ Center for Research in Electronic Art Technology (CREATE) _ Dept. of Music, Univ. of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB) _ stp(a)create.ucsb.edu, http://www.create.ucsb.edu/~stp/

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speech synthesizer
by Luciano Esteban Notarfrancesco 08 May '98

08 May '98

Paul Fernhout have put my speech synthesizer availeable for download at http://www.kurtz-fernhout.com/squeak/index.htm The file itself is at: http://www.kurtz-fernhout.com/squeak/synth.tar.gz It's also in the downloading area of http://sugarweb.com. The synthesizer is ugly, but it's an start. Regards, Luciano.-

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Re: New "free" version of Smalltalk/X
by Randal Schwartz 08 May '98

08 May '98

>>>>> "Dwight" == Dwight Hughes <dwighth(a)ipa.net> writes: Dwight> Supported architectures are: Dwight> linux ELF (old libc) Dwight> linux a.out Dwight> solaris2.5 (sparc) Dwight> aix2.3 Dwight> dec-alpha (osf1) Dwight> NeXTStep3.x (mc68k) Dwight> hpux10 Dwight> sgi5.3 Dwight> unixware Dwight> Sorry, the openVMS and win/NT versions are not yet Dwight> included - watch for announcements in this newsgroup ... (straining hard to see if MacOS is in there...) Nope. How pointless then. And didn't even say "Sorry, MacOS is not supported." How disconnected can they get? -- Name: Randal L. Schwartz / Stonehenge Consulting Services (503)777-0095 Keywords: Perl training, UNIX[tm] consulting, video production, skiing, flying Email: <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> Snail: (Call) PGP-Key: (finger merlyn(a)teleport.com) Web: <A HREF="http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/">My Home Page!</A> Quote: "I'm telling you, if I could have five lines in my .sig, I would!" -- me

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Re: New Minimal MIDI for Squeak
by stp＠limbo.create.ucsb.edu 08 May '98

08 May '98

> I've just updated the ftp directory for the minimal MIDI > support for Squeak Oh, if you try this, look at the examples in class MIDIPort for a comprehensive tour, and read the class comments for an architectural discussion. stp _ Stephen Travis Pope _ Center for Research in Electronic Art Technology (CREATE) _ Dept. of Music, Univ. of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB) _ stp(a)create.ucsb.edu, http://www.create.ucsb.edu/~stp/

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Re: New Minimal MIDI for Squeak
by stp＠limbo.create.ucsb.edu 07 May '98

07 May '98

Reiner wrote, > I don't know if it's a good idea to have Siren in the image as long as > there is only support for Mac. I agree fully, and intend to support an SGI port as well. The low-level primitives are indeed designed for portability, and include a very flexible Mac implementation, much of which could be reused even for non-OMS ports. The minimal system is not "Siren" in that the Smalltalk model is just the port object. The musical models, real-time scheduler, etc. are to be ported to 2.0, but are not included (as planned, check with the WDI team) in the default 2.0 image. stp _ Stephen Travis Pope _ Center for Research in Electronic Art Technology (CREATE) _ Dept. of Music, Univ. of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB) _ stp(a)create.ucsb.edu, http://www.create.ucsb.edu/~stp/

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Re: New Minimal MIDI for Squeak
by Sabine van Loon 07 May '98

07 May '98

Hi Mark, > Just curious, is there anyone working on the Siren port to NT/Windows platform? Out of curiosity I checked www.opcode.com as mentioned by stp. This is what they say: " The Windows OMS application is currently unavailable. Please check back at a later date. Sorry for the incovienence " I did found some hardware drivers but there they say: " All drivers shown will work with Windows 3.1, 3.11, or Windows 95. These drivers will not work with any DOS MIDI software or with Windows NT. " So, at least OMS for NT is not possible, I think. However, I did find something called MidiXObj, which is low-level driver for MIDI: " MidiXObj is a collection of two low level MIDI function Dynamic Link Libraries (DLLs) which conforms to the XObject standard. " This is shareware and Co-Active wants something like 200 British Pounds for it. I don't know if it's a good idea to have Siren in the image as long as there is only support for Mac. Regards, Reinier.

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Re: New Minimal MIDI for Squeak
by stp＠limbo.create.ucsb.edu 07 May '98

07 May '98

> Just curious, is there anyone working on the Siren port to NT/Windows platform? Andreas Raab mentioned that he'd looked into it, but I'm not sure if he got it ported. The fact that it's being included in 2.0 means that it won't be "optional" on most platforms in the future... stp _ Stephen Travis Pope _ Center for Research in Electronic Art Technology (CREATE) _ Dept. of Music, Univ. of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB) _ stp(a)create.ucsb.edu, http://www.create.ucsb.edu/~stp/

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Re: Free, Non-Commercial Version of Popular VisualWorks Development
by wallingf＠cs.uni.edu 07 May '98

07 May '98

Cutting through a lot of marketing words: > In conjunction with this program, ObjectShare is releasing a free, non- > commercial version of the company's flagship product, VisualWorks. Unfortunately, this move comes too late for those of us at Michigan State, Northern Iowa, and other schools who have been trying to use Smalltalk in various academic capacities for nearly ten years. MSU has paid countless thousands of dollars in licensing in that time for purely academic usage, and UNI simply waited. (No big bucks here!) Now, with the availability of Squeak, the Squeak community, all of my time spent learning Squeak deeply, and other competitors such as VisualAge, I doubt we make the move. Thanks for the posting, though, Steve. It's good to see that the VW people have come to recognize some value in an academic market! ---- Eugene

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