2008/8/31 Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2001@yahoo.com.ar:
El 8/31/08 11:06 AM, "nicolas cellier" ncellier@ifrance.com escribió:
I don't understand this. Concerning harvesting team, age and wisdom are required qualities for at least one member, and having a master in such team would not hurt, would it?
I meaning in the past , many who begins with Squeak only need hit the updates button.
Now , seems people need more.
You and lots of people do a terrific work in Mantis. Mantis is a tool still all need learn how to use , until some better tool arise.
Concerning Mantis. Take a look at Seaside people, who using a code.google to track issues. Choosing and migrating to new issue tracker could help , but only if we will be sure that we will not end up with a tons of reported bugs which no-one cares to fix and review.
One of idea to make use of Mantis more convenient is to create a bug fixes hubs and collect all fixes in them, so instead of doing search/filtering on issues by category, you simply open a report named 'fixes included into Squak X.Y.unstable', where everyone could see a progress and ask to test/include own fix.
It seems to me that PBwiki does have some filter at next level, though I did not understand exactly the process for moving changes from Unstable to Stable branch.
And PBWiki relaxes a bit the hard job of reviewing/harvesting patches from mantis, using a more collaborative way. Installer and PBWiki are just tools for harvesters, like mantis is. They help working around some of the mantis problems.
It's not bad do all kinds of experiments, I doing all the time. When at some point we discover our mistakes, we should recognize and go back to the right way.
But Squeak is about objects, I believe. For scripting , many others languages like Perl exist.
Ralph teach me to avoid Doits and all should go to Classes and Methods.
I made tons of mistakes in 3dot10 ! Take two releases all know Monticello could't manage a complete release. I very confident in Monticello 2 and maybe some of DeltaStreams could do the trick.
Sure Test is not a silver bullet, but is some useful.
And we are people , not computers , so at some point we should made hand work.
Edgar