Hilaire,
I have already run in to real problems with the license. We have seen a number of cases where either inclusion of Squeak or porting agreements with other companies has been squashed by our license. It should also be obvious that Viewpoint considers this a real problem with Croquet or they would not have spent the time and effort to have Apple change it.
On a personal note my software development is also at risk, which is why I've tried so hard to help with this issue, even if my pushing and prodding has not been welcomed by everyone.
When I read the license what I see is that it is free software and within my own personal risk tolerance for development. You could call it PR and argue that there is no real license issue but if a customer sees it as above their own Risk level this is not PR it is a real barrier to deployment. If someone says to me that you can port our code to squeak but not under your license that's a real issue preventing collaboration. Or when someone says we want to contribute to Squeak development but we don't understand your license model well enough to know if contributing to your work puts us at risk, that's a real problem.
This issue is not an imaginary PR issue. We have an opportunity to fix the problem we need to take that opportunity. My time working on this issue has shown me two things: First, there are a number of people educated enough in the issue and willing to help lead or work on this issue. Second, there are enough people that have tried and failed to fix this issue willing to step out in front and say it's too complicated, not worth the effort, not important and there is not enough time.
My suggestion is that the foundation should lead this effort by opening up this process and create a team of both elected foundation members and non foundation members willing to help organize the process. I would like to see progress and the understanding that failure is not an option. Whatever the path, whatever the effort, no matter how long it takes, it will be over the sooner we set off, let's move forward.
For with it is worth,
Ron Teitelbaum President / Principal Software Engineer US Medical Record Specialists Ron@USMedRec.com
From: Hilaire Fernandes Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 2:56 AM
Ron Teitelbaum a écrit :
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It's more then PR.
I don't understand, can you elaborate?
Hilaire
Ron Teitelbaum
From: Cees De Groot Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:01 AM
On 6/24/06, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire@ext.cri74.org wrote:
Other people attending the meeting have shown absolutely *NO INTEREST* in the matter, it is sad :(
I don't know. It might also be an indicator that the licensing "issues" are largely just perceived, or deemed to be PR stuff, or whatever. But not a real actual stumbling block to actual Squeak practicioners.
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