RE: how to become modular

-- +1.604.689.0322 DeepCove Labs Ltd. 4th floor 595 Howe Street Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 boris@deepcovelabs.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This email is intended only for the persons named in the message header. Unless otherwise indicated, it contains information that is private and confidential. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender and delete the entire message including any attachments. Thank you. > -----Original Message----- > From: squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:squeak-dev- > bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Craig Latta > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 12:25 PM > To: squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org > Subject: re: how to become modular > > > Hi Trygve-- > > > When I tried to start SPOON at the end of May, I followed your > > instructions to "view the current _installed modules"... > > You're referring to text within the alpha release itself (the > webpage presented on startup). > > > ...but got an error. When I reported it, you answered "Great, you got > > as far as trying that! :) Those things don't actually work in that > > release, stay tuned for the next release." > > Now you're referring to a private email message I sent directly to > you. > > > I may be naive, but I did not expect you to invite me to spend my time > > on things that just cannot work. > > With all due respect, yes, I would call that naive with regard to > what "alpha software" is. We seem to be repeating ourselves here. I > think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. > > > I know error 33 came from PARC; I was there. > > I know you were, that's why I thought it was a compelling thing to > elaborate upon that point in this discussion with you. > > > But you misunderstand it. It leaves you free to reinvent the world, > > but warns me about prematurely building on your results. > > I understand that quite well. I was pointing out other even worse > errors that can arise from attempts to avoid that situation. > > > I do not insist on small incremental changes. > > I was not referring specifically to you, but to the Squeak > community on the whole. > > > > > Still, I do want to try SPOON. But I got wary when I followed the > > > > installation directions and immediately crashed. Perhaps the > > > > project hasn't got as far as I expected. > > > > > > It is indeed alpha software currently, as marked. Still, I hadn't > > > thought that would keep people from considering possibilities. > > > > You first have to give me something to consider... :-) > > Well, I thought I had: a vision for how Squeak could work, and the > design ideas I am pursuing to get there. > > > I appreciate your unpleasant situation - so many important ideas > > waiting to be realized and nobody willing to pay your living expenses. > > Trygve, forgive me, but I think you are venturing into extremely > inappropriate territory here. I had never brought my personal financial > situation into this discussion, and I would appreciate that you refrain > from doing so. Furthermore, what you have said is untrue. Since 2002 I > have made my living as an independent consultant. While I do announce > when I have available time, I have clients. > > If you would like to continue this conversation, may I suggest you > do so in private, and not on this mailing list? Thank you. > > > So, as I have said before. SPOON is too promising to be stopped. > > > thanks again, > > -C > > -- > Craig Latta > improvisational musical informaticist > www.netjam.org > Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] >