On 11/24/15, karl ramberg karlramberg@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Stéphane Rollandin <lecteur@zogotounga.net
wrote:
You say "Nobody cares.
Nobody wants to make Squeak better. The only thing the Squeak community values is compatibility with Alan's demos, and a version of Etoys that nobody uses.". None of those statements are true of my efforts or, as far as I can see, of the significant efforts of the HPI team, or of Tim Rowledge, if Chris Muller or Levente Uzoni, and probably a lot of other folks too.
Squeak is my day to day workhorse. The HOI folks are improving the environment at great velocity. Squeak 5 is ~40% faster than Squeak 4.6. Neither of these things are true because no one cares.
+1
And if I may add: the feeling that "nobody cares" is a permeating one. Not many people give feedback about what they care about (me included).
In my case, I definitely have the feeling that nobody cares about anything I ever did in Squeak during about 15 years now, which to day includes: a modular Lisp/Scheme implementation, an extension for functional programming, the upgrading of the Prolog implementation, a vast system for musical composition, and a Space Invader reboot.
It's fortunate I did not do this for glory and fame :)
Even more, I still mostly feel like a complete outsider (probably because I build things on top of Squeak instead of working on the core, and possibly also because I work alone and have no position in industry or academia).
I'm so convinced nobody cares about what I do that stopped long ago sending fixes to bug I encounters: I just fix them in my code. For example, the Saucers game I did has a much faster way of handling morphs, down to modified #addMorph: logic. This could be leveraged, if someone looked at the code. But you cannot command interest.
I want to look at the code for the Saucers game. The one I downloaded from you page seemed to be in a locked image and I never got around to ask how to get to the code... So if you have it accessible I'm interested.
Best, Kar
Hello Stephane Is it possible to make it available on SqueakMap?
--Hannes
Well, that's how it is. I have the same experience with Csound people, so I'm pretty sure there is nothing specific to Squeak in these matters. The web is a cold place.
Cheers,
Stef