Marcel Taeumel wrote on Tue, 29 Aug 2023 15:47:19 +0200
Note that we still have several Etoys-compatible releases such as Etoys 4/5/6 and Squeak 5.1/5.2/5.3/6.0. Best compatibility is probably with Etoys 5. Most updated base system is probably Squeak 6.0. :-) So...should we remove Etoys from Trunk at this point?
It is nice that it is possible to remove Etoys from Squeak if you want to, but I think it should always be a part of the basic distribution image. How much smaller does the image become without Etoys? About one third of what I do in Squeak involves Etoys so I see them as a single thing.
In fact, the old SqueakFest event and the "Squeakers" movie focused almost exclusively on Etoys. The official Etoys web site is called "squeakland". So my suggestion would be for an Etoyless version of open source Smalltalk adopt a new name to avoid confusion (Cuis and Pharo did that, for example).
-- Jecel