Maintaining the image ( from Re: [Mantisk 0004531]: etc, from Edgar to myself.)
Hi Edgar,
You have my sympathies, and whatever you decide I will respect your wishes.
I think this note needs to be shared more widely than between the two of us. It becomes part of the case against the decision to use MC1 to maintain the image. Or at least against it being a precursor to maintaining the image.
(Or a case against maintaining morphic. Sigh.)
It might make more sense to update the image with changesets and then at some point snapshot the MC packages. This update the package then build the image breaks down when dealing with large packages or even worse changes that cut across packages.
Some further thought needs to be put in as to exactly what we are doing; the contexts we are doing them in and how the various goals and forces interact.
As always thanks for your service and friendship.
Cheers, -Jer
--- "Edgar J. De Cleene" edgardec2001@yahoo.com.ar wrote:
El 11/25/07 6:54 PM, "box-admins@lists.squeakfoundation.org" box-admins@lists.squeakfoundation.org escribió:
On 11-25-07 21:54, wiz sent you this reminder
about:
http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=4531
Hi Edgar, Here is another one that fell thru the cracks.
It should have been fixed in 3.9 but a the
duplicate complaint made me look
and it has not yet gotten into the 7155 image.
So this should be taken care of so smalland theme
users can find us new bugs.
Cheers, service, and curiosity, --Jer
Amigo:
I wish end the release and move to a less painful way ( change sets ) or to a not proved way but maybe in the long run better as DeltaStreams.
I very reluctant to do updates touching Morph, don't wish move 1.3 Mb up and down for changes like this (only a method).
The worst is people using 3.10 don't use Etoys or any small land or OLPC relate, they want web and development.
And the OLPC and Small Land don't wish play with us.
??? Is that actually true? Smallland isn't still developing and I don't get responses when I try to contact Diego but clearly they must be doing something.
OLPC is under constant deadline pressure. But Bert and Yoshiki write the list often.
AFAIK no one has disowned the idea of cooperation. The forces of time and the necessity to focus on other things seem to get in the way.
So , why I should do ?
Um squeak should not have unimplemented calls. Ones that get in peoples way are particularly obnoxious. We have had two separate complaints about this. So something that changes the image should be done. The fix makes the least assumptions about what else should happen.
This does not mean that it must be 3dot10 that chooses to fix it. Maybe it needs to be scheduled for 3dot11. Talk to Ralph and find out his thoughts. Meanwhile I am copying this reply to the squeakdev list. I bet we get a lot of opinions from that. :)
Very different is if I could do using a real change sets.
Edgar
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