And yet another that I dimly recall, but have little info on. I need to start writing these things down.
But no, I am fairly certain that TinyTalk was not Rosetta. In a perfect world, I would turn around and find my 1981 issue of Byte on the bookshelf behind me and get the reference... amazingly, this is possible... and said reference would look like this:
On page 302 of the August 1981 issue of Byte: "TinyTalk was implemented on a Xerox microcomputer by Larry Tesler and Kim McCall" ...
The article I mentioned before was: "TinyTalk, a Subset of Smalltalk-76 for 64Kb Microcomputers", in Proceedings of the Third Annual Symposium on Small Systems. This whole proceedings was not much bigger than a newsletter, and this article was about one page long. In fact, it was indeed in a newsletter- ACM Sigsmall Newsletter, vol. 6, no. 2, 1980, pages 197-198 ( ok, 1 1/2 pages ).
Very sketchy. Enquiring minds want to know! To be honest, I've long had a crazy notion of doing something like that on my old Commodore 64 ( after all, I souped it up with that big 880Kb 3-1/2" disk drive, and the 256Kb Ram Expansion Unit, and GEOS... surely it still has plenty of life left in it? ).
Thanks for mentioning Rosetta- it is easy to lose these things when we aren't looking.
- les
----- Original Message ----- From: Duane Maxwell dmaxwell@san.rr.com To: squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 11:38 PM Subject: Re: Chris Macie's Apple II Smalltalk-80 ( was Re: Access vs. Media )
Les Tyrell writes:
Actually, another thing of intest to me would be more information about TinyTalk, which was a variant of Smalltalk that I recall had been done on
a
64Kb Z-80 computer ( probably CP/M ).
Are you sure it wasn't Scott Warren's Rosetta Smalltalk, which ran on a Z-80?
http://www.rosetta.com/TechHistory.html#rosetta-smalltalk
-- Duane