On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:35 AM, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
On 01-02-2018, at 9:58 AM, Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 7:48 AM, Jakob Reschke forums.jakob@resfarm.de
wrote:
I have been told that nobody uses the Monticello feature of dependencies among packages...
At least for me that's because I didn't know they supported this :-(. I
think I shall try using it :-)
I do (or at least, did, might have stopped at some point, get off my lawn) use it for the WeatherStation package and NuScratchGPIO. The ui is a bit … sparse. Functionally it seems to work quite nicely; it loads the required packages before the main package. What else would it do? A bit more UI to manage required packages would be nice; currently you can add one, or remove them all. A bit sledge-hammer for my tastes.
We at least need to reveal it through the Monticello browser. I see no Dependences button or edit dependencies menu item anywhere. So for me the feature was completely invisible. I've been maintaining unnecessary load scripts for the VMMaker package when I could simply rely on dependencies. This isn't good guys :-(
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Never trust a computer you can't lift.
_,,,^..^,,,_ best, Eliot
On 2 February 2018 at 19:38, Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:35 AM, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
On 01-02-2018, at 9:58 AM, Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 7:48 AM, Jakob Reschke forums.jakob@resfarm.de
wrote:
I have been told that nobody uses the Monticello feature of dependencies among packages...
At least for me that's because I didn't know they supported this :-(.
I think I shall try using it :-)
I do (or at least, did, might have stopped at some point, get off my lawn) use it for the WeatherStation package and NuScratchGPIO. The ui is a bit … sparse. Functionally it seems to work quite nicely; it loads the required packages before the main package. What else would it do? A bit more UI to manage required packages would be nice; currently you can add one, or remove them all. A bit sledge-hammer for my tastes.
We at least need to reveal it through the Monticello browser. I see no Dependences button or edit dependencies menu item anywhere. So for me the feature was completely invisible. I've been maintaining unnecessary load scripts for the VMMaker package when I could simply rely on dependencies. This isn't good guys :-(
It's the first menu item "add required package".
Don't use it. There's a reason we use config maps or metacello instead of these.
- Bert -
On 02.02.2018, at 20:35, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
On 2 February 2018 at 19:38, Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:35 AM, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
On 01-02-2018, at 9:58 AM, Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 7:48 AM, Jakob Reschke forums.jakob@resfarm.de wrote: I have been told that nobody uses the Monticello feature of dependencies among packages...
At least for me that's because I didn't know they supported this :-(. I think I shall try using it :-)
I do (or at least, did, might have stopped at some point, get off my lawn) use it for the WeatherStation package and NuScratchGPIO. The ui is a bit … sparse. Functionally it seems to work quite nicely; it loads the required packages before the main package. What else would it do? A bit more UI to manage required packages would be nice; currently you can add one, or remove them all. A bit sledge-hammer for my tastes.
We at least need to reveal it through the Monticello browser. I see no Dependences button or edit dependencies menu item anywhere. So for me the feature was completely invisible. I've been maintaining unnecessary load scripts for the VMMaker package when I could simply rely on dependencies. This isn't good guys :-(
It's the first menu item "add required package".
Don't use it. There's a reason we use config maps or metacello instead of these.
+1000
On 02-02-2018, at 11:35 AM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
On 2 February 2018 at 19:38, Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:35 AM, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
On 01-02-2018, at 9:58 AM, Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 7:48 AM, Jakob Reschke forums.jakob@resfarm.de wrote: I have been told that nobody uses the Monticello feature of dependencies among packages...
At least for me that's because I didn't know they supported this :-(. I think I shall try using it :-)
I do (or at least, did, might have stopped at some point, get off my lawn) use it for the WeatherStation package and NuScratchGPIO. The ui is a bit … sparse. Functionally it seems to work quite nicely; it loads the required packages before the main package. What else would it do? A bit more UI to manage required packages would be nice; currently you can add one, or remove them all. A bit sledge-hammer for my tastes.
We at least need to reveal it through the Monticello browser. I see no Dependences button or edit dependencies menu item anywhere. So for me the feature was completely invisible. I've been maintaining unnecessary load scripts for the VMMaker package when I could simply rely on dependencies. This isn't good guys :-(
It's the first menu item "add required package".
Don't use it. There's a reason we use config maps or metacello instead of these.
Then the facility should have been removed some time ago.
tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Useful Latin Phrases:- O! Plus! Perge! Aio! Hui! Hem! = Oh! More! Go on! Yes! Ooh! Ummm!
On 2 February 2018 at 23:17, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
On 02-02-2018, at 11:35 AM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de
wrote:
On 2 February 2018 at 19:38, Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:35 AM, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
On 01-02-2018, at 9:58 AM, Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 7:48 AM, Jakob Reschke forums.jakob@resfarm.de
wrote:
I have been told that nobody uses the Monticello feature of dependencies among packages...
At least for me that's because I didn't know they supported this :-(.
I think I shall try using it :-)
I do (or at least, did, might have stopped at some point, get off my
lawn) use it for the WeatherStation package and NuScratchGPIO. The ui is a bit … sparse. Functionally it seems to work quite nicely; it loads the required packages before the main package. What else would it do? A bit more UI to manage required packages would be nice; currently you can add one, or remove them all. A bit sledge-hammer for my tastes.
We at least need to reveal it through the Monticello browser. I see no
Dependences button or edit dependencies menu item anywhere. So for me the feature was completely invisible. I've been maintaining unnecessary load scripts for the VMMaker package when I could simply rely on dependencies. This isn't good guys :-(
It's the first menu item "add required package".
Don't use it. There's a reason we use config maps or metacello instead
of these.
Then the facility should have been removed some time ago.
Indeed.
- Bert -
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