Amen to that.
BTW, everyone is welcome to join the review fest going on in the final hours of 3.6alpha by installing the BFAV and reviewing/testing/ commenting something (even if its small).
I intend to do some approving tommorrow, so stuff that gets enough loving and is ready still has a chance to get in.
Daniel PS. You might want to look at http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/3103
Jimmie Houchin jhouchin@texoma.net wrote:
Just wanted to make a few comments in the midst of the all the heat and smoke, but no _anger_. :)
Like many I am for the Squeak which can be anything you want it to be. Server Squeak, Multimedia Squeak, OS Environment Squeak.
I really like the TTF and New Look stuff. I would really like the visual aspects of Squeak to be polished and shine, shine, shine. :)
I understand those who want to honor the _Date_ committment. I understand those who want to honor a _Feature_ committment. I agree. :)
I would like to encourage those who may be discouraged because of a perception of slow progress. The perception of their goodies possibly (but hopefully will now) not getting in due only becoming available just prior to the _Date_.
Understand that the process is not mature. The tools are not mature.
Much of the time during this _alpha_ period have been without Marcus as Harvestor and without BFAV.
From my perception the BFAV is enabling more people to step up to the plate and contribute. As the tools and _process_ improve more people will likely join in to help as the time committment might not be as high.
We have much to be encouraged about. Please, please be encouraged and not discouraged. The good things will make it into Squeak (via SM or image). And please feel free to define what you call _good things_.
I don't believe that the Guides/Community choosing to either continue forward with 3.6 and _Date_ or delay the _Date_ to help the _Features_ with hurt Squeak or the community.
We need to allow the Guides and the Community and the Process to mature the Process for all of us to fully grasp it.
So whether the _Date_ is strictly adhered to or if a small 1-2 week delay is introduced, we need to understand it doesn't make any of this a normative part of the _Process_. It won't break anything. These are growing pains. Be of good cheer. That is a good thing. It means progress.
So please cheer up. We have much to be thankful for and much to look forward to.
Jimmie Houchin Squeak Cheerleader RA RA SHISH BOOM BA. ;) (ahhhh! now I've shouted. :)
Proverbs 17:22 A merry heart does good like a medicine: but a broken spirit dries up the bones.
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BTW, everyone is welcome to join the review fest going on in the final hours of 3.6alpha by installing the BFAV and reviewing/testing/ commenting something (even if its small).
I've just noticed that this can be incredibly hard if you don't see all of the appropriate messages. Looking for a specific set of enhancements (namely, Anthony's changes) I found absolutely nothing showing up in BFAV. Going to the SQFIXES archives showed me that the posts _were_ listed there and looking at the email-repository I found that the contents of the post in question simply said "an error occured... server not responding".
So it seems as if (that version of?) BFAV will simply drop messages if the server is not responsive. I just dumped the entire archive and reloaded it from scratch and (looking over all the posts manually) it seems that this time things went well (e.g., no server errors) but if it hasn't this bug should be fixed. It's very hard to review fixes if you don't even see them ;-)
Cheers, - Andreas
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