[etoys-dev] Etoys developer chat log

Bert Freudenberg bert at freudenbergs.de
Wed Apr 28 11:56:23 EDT 2010


On 27.04.2010, at 12:29, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> 
> On 27.04.2010, at 02:09, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> we had another nice chat today. Topics included
>> 
>> * what does @HELP achieve in the #etoys channel
>> * how to fix up the ancestry of Monticello packages we create
>> * and what to do about remaining packaging differences
>> * how to get more reliable #etoys logs (perhaps same as #squeak?)
>> * how to call next release? The update stream uses "etoys4.1" for now, the bug tracker "etoys 2010". "Etoys 5" would be an option too. Discussion welcome.
>> * lack of documentation on extending Etoys, or even of its overall design
>> * progress on User Manual
>> * discussing Ricardo's GSoC project (Randy will set up a Google Group)
>> * Maybe move all Squeakland mailing lists and forums to Google? would get rid of the forum spam issues
>> 
>> Next chat will be next Monday, same time and place. But the channel is open 24/7, you can try to catch us any time (and use @ALL or @HELP to get our attention).
>> 
>> Full log below. Once we have regular logging I won't have to spam the list with this anymore ...
>> 
>> - Bert -
> 
> Derek alerted me I forgot to point out his notes on Audio / Video on Linux:
> 
> =============================================
> Etoys, Ubuntu desktop
> 	AUDIO
> 		- Currently OSS is used via PADSP, crashes on recording
> 		- Copied so.vm-sound-pulse from Sq VM 4.0.3-2022
> 		- Commented out L84-89 in etoys.sh
> 		- Added L90: VMOPTIONS="$VMOPTIONS -vm-sound-pulse"
> 		- Playback/record working
> 		-
> 		- Reverb is enabled by default, to stop use do-it: "SoundPlayer stopReverb".
> 		- SoundRecorder morph has no way for user to stop the recording process...
> 			- Deleting the morph does not stop the process
> 			- If deleted while recording it carries on recording (in the trash-can)
> 			- Switching to another project does stop the process
> 			- Alternatively use this do-it: "SoundRecorder stopRecording"
> 
> 	VIDEO
> 		- V4LDeviceImplementor class>>workOnCurrentEnvironment
> 			- Changed (2x): Smalltalk osVersion = 'linux-gnu' ...
> 			- To: Smalltalk osVersion includesSubString: 'linux'
> 
> - Reversed the order of implementors?
> 
> - Used libv4l util (etoys.sh, L95)...
> 
> LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so "$VM" -plugins "$BIN" $VMOPTIONS "$IMAGE" "$DOCUMENT" $IMOPTIONS
> =============================================
> 
> Thanks Derek!
> 
> Hmm, I cannot reach the squeakland server today from here. Can someone else put this in a tracker ticket please?
> 
> - Bert -

Well, updated the tracker myself now :) Have a look to make sure I didn't forget anything:

http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-213
http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-641
http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-697
http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-698

Btw, how would you all feel about posting all the development notifications (bug entries, commit messages) right here on etoys-dev instead of the separate notify list? I like how they spur discussion on squeak-dev, it makes the development work more visible.

- Bert -




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