[etoys-dev] Etoys developer chat log
Bert Freudenberg
bert at freudenbergs.de
Wed Apr 28 11:56:23 EDT 2010
On 27.04.2010, at 12:29, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>
> On 27.04.2010, at 02:09, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> we had another nice chat today. Topics included
>>
>> * what does @HELP achieve in the #etoys channel
>> * how to fix up the ancestry of Monticello packages we create
>> * and what to do about remaining packaging differences
>> * how to get more reliable #etoys logs (perhaps same as #squeak?)
>> * how to call next release? The update stream uses "etoys4.1" for now, the bug tracker "etoys 2010". "Etoys 5" would be an option too. Discussion welcome.
>> * lack of documentation on extending Etoys, or even of its overall design
>> * progress on User Manual
>> * discussing Ricardo's GSoC project (Randy will set up a Google Group)
>> * Maybe move all Squeakland mailing lists and forums to Google? would get rid of the forum spam issues
>>
>> Next chat will be next Monday, same time and place. But the channel is open 24/7, you can try to catch us any time (and use @ALL or @HELP to get our attention).
>>
>> Full log below. Once we have regular logging I won't have to spam the list with this anymore ...
>>
>> - Bert -
>
> Derek alerted me I forgot to point out his notes on Audio / Video on Linux:
>
> =============================================
> Etoys, Ubuntu desktop
> AUDIO
> - Currently OSS is used via PADSP, crashes on recording
> - Copied so.vm-sound-pulse from Sq VM 4.0.3-2022
> - Commented out L84-89 in etoys.sh
> - Added L90: VMOPTIONS="$VMOPTIONS -vm-sound-pulse"
> - Playback/record working
> -
> - Reverb is enabled by default, to stop use do-it: "SoundPlayer stopReverb".
> - SoundRecorder morph has no way for user to stop the recording process...
> - Deleting the morph does not stop the process
> - If deleted while recording it carries on recording (in the trash-can)
> - Switching to another project does stop the process
> - Alternatively use this do-it: "SoundRecorder stopRecording"
>
> VIDEO
> - V4LDeviceImplementor class>>workOnCurrentEnvironment
> - Changed (2x): Smalltalk osVersion = 'linux-gnu' ...
> - To: Smalltalk osVersion includesSubString: 'linux'
>
> - Reversed the order of implementors?
>
> - Used libv4l util (etoys.sh, L95)...
>
> LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so "$VM" -plugins "$BIN" $VMOPTIONS "$IMAGE" "$DOCUMENT" $IMOPTIONS
> =============================================
>
> Thanks Derek!
>
> Hmm, I cannot reach the squeakland server today from here. Can someone else put this in a tracker ticket please?
>
> - Bert -
Well, updated the tracker myself now :) Have a look to make sure I didn't forget anything:
http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-213
http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-641
http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-697
http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-698
Btw, how would you all feel about posting all the development notifications (bug entries, commit messages) right here on etoys-dev instead of the separate notify list? I like how they spur discussion on squeak-dev, it makes the development work more visible.
- Bert -
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