[etoys-dev] Question about LocaleID>>#displayName

[Ricardo Moran]

Why not including all the necessary icons by default just as the Japanese
case? I don't think there would be a lot of icons needed.

Richo

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Korakurider <korakurider at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Ricardo Moran <richi.moran at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Maybe I'm missing something but the idea is fix the method #displayName
> to
> > look for the translation of "Language-Name" instead of the magic
> > phrase '<language display name>' (which I don't know how it works... I
> guess
> > that's why it's calles "magic" :).
>     Correct.
>
>    My point was that to display string in some language correctly
> Etoys needs additional font loaded, but in our packaging the font is
> NOT loaded into image by default.
> In current implementation the font might be loaded after the language
> is actually selected by user.  This means font isn't loaded when
> language button is pressed and language chooser is opened.
>
> Squeak has facility to display language name with extra icon.
> see #iconForNativeLanguage and #chooseNaturalLanguage.
> The icon for Japanese is actually loaded in the image by default, so
> language name display for Japanese is using the icon.
>
> So I think assumptions by current implementation are
> a-1 translation for "the magic phrase" doesn't need additional font
> a-2 If additional font is needed language icon is installed.
>
> How do you think the design?
> And We might want to ask folks to produce the icons for some languages.
>
> /Korakurider
>
> > Anyway, I see that "Language-Name" is translated in some po files but in
> > latest dev images I execute
> > (LocaleID isoLanguage: 'es') displayName
> > and I get 'Spanish; Castilian' where it should be 'Español'. However, I
> > tried an old image (etoys4.0 of 9 October 2008 update 2340) and when I
> first
> > open Etoys I get the correct result. But, when I change the locale to
> "es",
> > it gives me the wrong result.
> > I know why this happens: newer images start up using the correct locale
> so I
> > guess the mo file is already loaded and it uses a GetTextTranslator
> (which,
> > as I said, doesn't work). In the old image the mo file is not loaded yet
> so
> > it uses InternalTranslator which holds the correct translation.
> > In a separate note, the spanish translation is wrong: it translates
> > "Language-Name" literally as "Nombre-Lenguaje". I don't know if the
> others
> > are right (because I don't know that many languages) but I think we
> should
> > warn the translators about that.
> > Cheers
> > Richo
> >
> > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Korakurider <korakurider at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:50 AM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > On 18.05.2010, at 09:46, Ricardo Moran wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> > I've found this method:
> >> > ----------------------------------------------------
> >> > LocaleID>>displayName
> >> > | magicPhrase translatedMagicPhrase |
> >> > magicPhrase := '<language display name>'.
> >> > translatedMagicPhrase := NaturalLanguageTranslator
> >> > translateWithoutLoading:
> >> > magicPhrase toLocaleID: self.
> >> > ^ translatedMagicPhrase = magicPhrase
> >> > ifTrue: [self displayLanguage]
> >> > ifFalse: [translatedMagicPhrase]
> >> > ----------------------------------------------------
> >> > Shouldn't magicPhrase be 'Language-Name' as it is in the po file?
> >> >
> >> > Yes, we should fix that.
> >> >
> >> > Also, this string doesn't seem to be translated in any file, is that
> >> > correct?
> >> >
> >> > It is translated:
> >> > http://etoys.laptop.org/svn/trunk/etoys/po/etoys/de.po
> >> >
> >> > #: Language name as you'd like it to appear in the Languages menu
> >> > msgid "Language-Name"
> >> > msgstr "Deutsch"
> >>
> >> Some language needs additional font installed to draw string properly.
> >> So if we *naively fix* the translation, display of language name might
> >> be corrupted.
> >> Consideration on packaging will be required...
> >>
> >> /Korakurider
> >>
> >> >
> >> > - Bert -
> >> >
> >> >
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