[Seaside] Re: Java vs Squeak Page
henrik.ekenberg at gmail.com
Fri Jun 10 14:06:13 CEST 2005
I have check " http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry/ " but it is not the same
On 6/10/05, Squeak Smalltalk <wallenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
> Seaside is nice. I have try www.tesuji.nu/calc
> My boss ask me today if there is anythig like seaside in the Java world ?
> Best Regards
> On 6/4/05, Dominique Dutoit <dominiqued at versateladsl.be> wrote:
> > Your best bet is to make a live demo of how you are going to debug
> > the application with Squeak and how painful to process is when doing
> > the same with Java.
> > I think that Smalltalk is all about how the developer and the
> > environment participate to achieve a goal and it is very difficult to
> > convey that experience with articles and books. Java is so remote and
> > looks like a mountain you are not allowed to climb further than its
> > souvenirs shop, and you can't descent because so many people are
> > rushing behind you.
> > Anyway, good resources are:
> > - http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/seaside/
> > A gentle introduction to the challenge of developing web application
> > without a state machine.
> > - http://homepage.mac.com/svc/ADayAtTheBeach/
> > A nice article explaining the development process of a seaside-based
> > calculator.
> > - http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/seaside/2003-September/
> > 002132.html
> > A comparison between a weblog tool written with seaside and Java.
> > - http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?
> > showComments=true&entry=3261049347
> > A report on a keynote given by Avi a while ago.
> > - http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?JavaVsSmalltalk
> > - http://www.smalltalkchronicles.net/edition3-1/whyjava.html
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I need to explain to one of my customer why they can use Squeak
> > > instead of Java in a new project.
> > > "The project is a server based payment software."
> > >
> > > Do you have any good http pages ? So they can read and build an
> > > opinion ?
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > W.
> > >
> > > P.S I want to keep my customer so please "Smalltalk religious
> > > pages" ;)
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