[Seaside] Re: Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks

Nick Ager nick.ager at gmail.com
Wed Jun 22 13:23:41 UTC 2011


On the web we have an opportunity, are we loosing it?
> That's why I'm pushing this comparison and that's why I'd have and ESUG
> talk titled "On the web frontiers with Smalltalk". And a panel is
> planned too.

So let's focus on the future - rather than on what features we currently
Clearly JTalk is innovative.
Anything similar you'd like to share with us?
I've heard rumours that Gilad Bracha has a Newspeak to Javascript compiler
working. Anyone seen anything?

As another example, I was intrigued to learn that the web version of Angry
Birds (http://chrome.angrybirds.com/) used the Java->Javascript translator
in GWT (Google web toolkit) to automate the translation of (some of) the
game from Java to Javascript (sadly I've lost the link). One way of looking
at this, is that all web apps will potentially gain access to the libraries
in the Java ecosystem; in this case JBox2D (the physics engine) on the

Although it's great to be able to generate Javascript from your backend, but
what about making it equally easy to target Objective-C based iPhones
clients, and Java based Android clients? Perhaps Lukas's Helvetia is part of
the puzzle?


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