[Seaside] Re: seaside with squeak 4.5?

David T. Lewis lewis at mail.msen.com
Sun Dec 14 22:48:44 UTC 2014

On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:18:31PM +0100, Stephan Eggermont wrote:
> David wrote:
> >I just loaded this into my working image, which is fully up to date with 
> >Squeak trunk, and also happens to be a 64 bit image on a 64 bit VM with 
> >a reimplemented Chronology package and lots of other stuff in it. It loaded 
> >with no problems at all. 
> That's good to hear. Then we didn't break too much :) I'm looking forward
> to the 64-bit support, for both the better integration with 64-bit OS and applications
> and the support for a larger image.

As far as I can tell, you didn't break anything at all :-) I didn't really
test anything, just loaded it into my image. But I saw no indication of
any problems.

The more interesting 64-bit support is coming from Eliot's new 64-bit Spur
image. That will provide some considerable performance advantages, and much
better memory management for large images. I expect that this will make it
practical to use very large in-memory Smalltalk images without performance
penalty. The image that I'm running is the Dan Ingalls/Ian Piumarta image
format, which was intentionally kept very simple and close to the 32-bit
Squeak image format. It works very well and allows use of very large images,
but for practical applications I think that the new object memory in Spur
will be essential.

Keep an eye on the squeak-dev and vm-dev lists if interested, Eliot is making
rapid progress on 64-bit Spur.

> I took a look at what is actually loaded, and that is a very limited group.
> You probably also want an adapter (Swazoo/Webclient) and development support.
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