Matej,

You're very welcome.

I think you're exactly right that the "squeak" available via the squeakland
site is a plugin, as opposed to the "classical" squeak app/dev't
environment. The two sites are linked, though, and teachers (like me, or
with even less background) may unwittingly wander over to the squeak.org
site. For one thing, the tutorials and examples on the squeakland site are
very limited and the whole site is geared toward young children. (I'm
looking for "middle ground" for young teens.)

Alan Kay recently spoke at a large national educational technology
conference in the US, so there may be other teacher folks who wander into
the squeak site needing to understand the distinction between the two
different squeak.exe files (same name; same icon for both the
squeak.com/complete and squeakland.com/plugin versions).

Nancy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matej Kosik [mailto:kosik at decef.elf.stuba.sk]
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:27 AM
> I heard about Squeak from an English teacher
> colleague who heard
> > Alan Kay speak at a conference. She (rightly) thought it sounded like
> > something that would interest me. This is ALL the background
> information I
> > had, though, before hitting Google to find out more. I easily
> found both the
> > Squeakland and Squeak sites, but could have used more
> clarification to tell
> > me there was a difference between the download at squeakland.org vs. at
> > squeak.org, and some information about the difference between the two
> > downloads. (As a beginner I needed to know that I could create, not just
> > view, using the plugin version, for instance.)
>
> I didn't wandered on squeakland web page until now. I guess (without
> guarantee) that www.squeakland.org is "squeak plugin" oriented whereas
> www.squeak.org is oriented toward classical squeak application/development
> environment.
>
> >
> > Nancy
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > > [mailto:squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org]On
> Behalf Of Matej
> > > Kosik
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 2:07 PM
> > > To: squeak-dev
> > > Subject: Squeak Install Instructions
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have put together some notes on squeak installation
> > > (for Linux and Windows)
> > >
> > > http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/3291
> > >
> > > Can somebody please check if the information is true.
> > > --
> > > Matej Kosik <http://altair.dcs.elf.stuba.sk/~kosik>
> > > ICQ: 300133844
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>