Which PDA best for running squeak ?

Hans Nikolaus Beck HNBeck at t-online.de
Thu Nov 13 18:41:38 UTC 2003


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Hi,

Thank you for this information !

Greetins

Hans

Am 13.11.2003 um 17:04 schrieb Aaron J Reichow:

> Hallo Hans!
>
>> I want to buy a PDA (PocketPC) and of course it should be able to run
>> squeak. Is there any model or any vendor which is better than others ?
>> Is 64 MB RAM enough (some PDA has 128)... Should it be 400 Mhz  
>> (XScale,
>> or is 200 MHz enough if no croquet running :-))) ?
>
> As with most things relating to computers, more is usually better. That
> is, higher CPU speed, more RAM, bigger screen, more features.  But the  
> top
> of the line isn't required.
>
> 64 MB of RAM should be enough for running pretty big images, including  
> the
> stock images.  Heck, I've run the stock images up until 3.4 with only  
> 32
> MB of RAM, although with anything up to 128 MB of RAM a memory card is
> reccomended.  One can get by with the SqueakVM and maybe only one
> moderately sized image on a 64 MB PDA's internal RAM- and a couple  
> other
> non-squeak apps and other data- but any more and you'd need a memory  
> card.
>
> PocketPCs split that amount of memory - 64 MB, etc- between "program
> execution" (aka RAM) and "storage space" (aka disk space).  But, memory
> cards are a lot cheaper than internal RAM MB-per-MB; I'd go with a 64  
> MB
> model and get a 256 MB SD card.
>
> As far as CPU, Squeak and Morphic run "decently" at 200 MHz or higher.
> Decent at the low end may be a little closer to slow though.  MVC is  
> fast
> on anything with a 50 MHz CPU or faster in my experience.  I would
> reccomend getting a 400 MHz XScale PXA255 equipped PDA.  They can be  
> had
> for a decentp rice.
>
> A bigger screen is super nice with Squeak.  Only one PocketPC device  
> has a
> bigger screen, and it's not even out quite yet, that being the Tosgiba
> e805. And that one will be very expensive.
>
> I would reccomend getting the Dell Axim X5 Advanced. 64 MB of RAM, 400  
> MHz
> XScale PXA255 CPU, built-in SD and CF slots, as well as the nicest  
> screen
> of that type (240x320 16 bit color) that I've ever seen.  USD$299 new
> through Dell's site. A very good price for a substantial machine.
>
> Just about everyone else where would say that one model or vendor is  
> the
> "best," but that really isn't the case.  If you are dead set on a
> "PocketPC" (as opposed to most any PDA that could run Squeak) and have  
> a
> gigantic budget, I would wait until the Toshiba e805 comes out.   
> They're
> $599, for same CPU, 128 MB RAM, SD and CF slots, integrated wi-fi and a
> 640x480 screen.
>
> some info:
> http://www.pocketloft.com/forums/showthread.php? 
> s=c920b20362902dbf21b341cd1b6ebfdc&threadid=1667
>
> If you've any more questions, don't hesitate to ask... I should put a  
> page
> on the swiki about this and keep it updated...
>
> Regards,
> Aaron
>
> --
>   "life, probably the biggest word i've ever said, that says a lot,
>   because there's a whole lot of words inside my head.." :: atmosphere
>
>
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