Simply, thanks.
Sometimes we dreamed too much how cool squeak could be and we got  
frustrated.
This is why marcus stopped to read squeak-dev and I stopped to post.
We never really wanted to break other code but sometimes you have to  
take decisions.

The best people can do is to participate at their own level (for  
example we understimate the impact
of tests on the quality) and create cool exciting projects and have fun.

Our goal was and still is to build a system that will enable other  
people creating new cool projects.
We like the idea that we can learn from the system and always had in  
mind the quote of dan saying that
the system should be so simple that one person can understand it.  
This is why we tried to harvest all
the work that you guys spent improving Squeak.

I hope that the 3.10 team will build on what we did and I already  
gave a lot of information especially
the problems we faced and how we tried to solve them. I would like so  
much to have more time
to really be able to help for MC2.

Stef


On 16 janv. 07, at 14:29, Benoit St-Jean wrote:

> Just a personal comment on what I recently read on
> this list...  We should never forget that, like it or
> not, we still live in a world where ideas and opinions
> sometimes clash and are often what's necessary to
> bring the discussion to the next level.  Let's not
> forget that if Squeak became the wonderful development
> environment it is right now, we owe it to guys like
> Markus, Stéphane Ducasse, John McIntosh and a bunch of
> others.
>
> So I really think seeing guys like Stéphane and Markus
> drifting away from the mailing list is really not a
> "plus" for Squeak.  It's a great loss in fact.
>
> I'm not saying we should always blindly accepts their
> ideas and opinions but we should all at least show a
> little bit more respect in our replies on this mailing
> list.
>
> I, for one, often complain about Squeak's UI (Morphic)
> but I always take great care into making it clear that
> I'm not judging the work of others but rather I'm just
> expressing what bugs me with the environment.  And as
> someone once told me, if it bugs you that much, Squeak
> gives you the luxury to enhance/fix/replace it!
>
> Let's just not forget that the purpose of a mailing
> list is to exchange, communicate and stir new ideas,
> not stir sh*t...
>
> Now gentlemen, can we all work together and make 3.10
> a kick a** development environment that will make ruby
> and others look extremely pale and poor compared to
> Squeak?
>
> :)
>
> My 2 Canadian cents...
>
> P.S.  Markus and Stéphane, we definitely need guys
> like you here...
>
> -----------------
> Benoit St-Jean
> Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean
> Blog: lamneth.wordpress.com
> A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero.
> (Albert Einstein)
>
>