2009/9/2 Germán Arduino <garduino at gmail.com>:
> 2009/9/2 Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com>:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> No amount of effort announcing, documenting, and promoting makes any
>>> difference. I have made considerable efforts on all three over the past
>>> 3 years whereas in contrast Lukas does no announcing, documenting or
>>> promoting, yet people use his stuff without a second thought.
>>
>> Simply not true.  Google Lukas Renggli and you get
>>    http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/
>>
>> Click on the Magritte link and you get overview, installation instructions,
>> links to mailing lists, code repositories, instructions on how to report
>> errors, a list of publications and a tutorial.
>> Google Keith Hodges and Bob the Builder and you get
>>
>>  http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/release/2008-October/000036.html
>> which, when I read it, presumes I know an awful lot of context I have no
>> clue how to create.  There's no overview, there's no pointer to code,
>> there's no tutorial, no hand-hlding, juts a description of how you go about
>> things once you understand how the whole thing works.  i.e. far too
>> demanding for a noob like myself.  I'm simply not smart enough to figure out
>> how to use your system form that description.
>> Magritte on the other hand looks like it could be worth some of my ever
>> shorter in supply time to explore. (As does Pier, Scriptaculous and the rest
>> of Lucas's thoughtfully presented projects).
>>
>
> +1
>
> Sorry Keith, I respect your work and the time you invested as the time
> and work of any person contributing
> with Squeak, but I'm in a similar situation of Eliot, never understood
> the whole context of all your tools with
> exception of Installer.
>
> As all of us, my free time is very limited, but I try to be acquainted
> of all the Squeak news, mainly the tools and
> process to build "our" Squeak and think that we need a consensus prior
> to adoption of tools and, afaik, I think that
> such consensus don't exist yet.
>

(wearing my Board member hat)
so, any volunteers to help Keith to document & publicize the essence
from his tools?
(wearing off the hat)

:)

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