[squeak-dev] The Inbox: Tools-LM.828.mcz

David T. Lewis lewis at mail.msen.com
Wed Aug 15 02:04:20 UTC 2018


On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 03:14:34PM -0700, Eliot Miranda wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
>     I have to say that Kjell has never posted anything I have found helpful
> or interesting or even on topic.  I suggest blocking him.

-1

I see nothing malicious or harmful here. I don't think we need to block
anyone unless actual harm is intended, or damage is being done.

Dave


> 
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Kjell Godo <squeaklist at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > e ifTrue:[ a a a ]                     ???<???????????????--[  = e ifTrue:[ ...
> > ]ifFalse:[]  ][  [] returns nil  ]???
> >
> > and if you can switch word wrap on and off you can move this comment way
> > to the right so just the arrow is showing when word wrap is off so if you
> > see an arrow you can either ignore it or turn wordwrap on and see it. in
> > this way you can include a lot of comments and see them or not see them via
> > word wrap on or off
> > <???-[ BorgLisp comments look like <???-[ ... ] which I am not reserving any
> > rights to ][ pyublic domain to anyone else who also wants to ][   by the
> > way ]
> >
> > so how often would i do this? kind of teaching comment? only when i feel
> > like it is my guess unless this could be automated some way and I didn???t
> > have to do anything
> >
> > and this word automated links to the idea of neglecting to make a manual
> > and books which are separated from the thing by a non zero distance and
> > instead writing the books into a mouse over or code selection thing that
> > pops up some kind of manual level explaining which might include a auto
> > generated manual which collects it all into one place which maybe was just
> > a haphazard collection of such explanations which might then make it easier
> > to write this haphazard auto manual<???-[ have a style guide up at the top
> > which says there is no style guide ][ to make it easier to write in the
> > hope that something might get written ] so it???s easier to write and easier
> > to add to wiki like because manuals get written at great cost and then they
> > sit because nobody is going to do that again. but if people could add to it
> > wiki like with no restrictions they still wouldn???t do it but you have to
> > try don???t you no style guide
> >
> > so you select something and popUp command [ Explain This ] and then you
> > get a default if you hit the space bar or a listSelector which offers to
> > attempt to explain whatever it is in the various different ways listed or
> > all ways with your last selection preselected
> >
> > the spotter seems to be trying to do this kind of thing but without the
> > manual level part of it in my experience maybe I was using it wrong
> >
> > so like what if the various books and PDFs were hooked up to this [
> > Explain This ] or [ Spotter ] command then the various books could be in
> > the listSelector and if you click on a book or [ Search All ] it tensor
> > flows or CYCs or etc searches it and assembles whatever it???s got and then
> > you can also click on any or a or the book or something if nothing came up
> > and go to the book(s) etc maybe via a paywall or whatever if it???s really
> > good or was costly to make or donate a donate wall
> >
> > or maybe if you click on a hit it sends you to that place in the book or
> > pdf
> >
> > ( absoluteDrivel??? ( paypal works good if lots of people use it but they
> > didn???t but maybe they do it now i finally do it now after avoiding it like
> > the plague for some decades and their stock is up and I???m looking forwards
> > now to paying quickly and easily<???-[ and I hit myself in the forhead now
> > and bray tell I could have had a V8 but I got a straight 6 for some treason
> > wedded to i better not say ][ (she who must be obeyed) ] quick and easy pay
> > for some of these things that somebody died to bring into this world so
> > donate I will if it takes no more than 15 seconds to do it
> > and I can do it by eye roll<???-[ a rolling of the eyeballs ][ keep em
> > rotating counter clockwise ]
> > because it???s not the money that people object to i think ( so think Apple
> > store got a huge chunk of my money by making it easy to pay too easy those
> > f )riends it???s the blood sweat and next of kin of paying that people object
> > to )and then and then when it erases everything you just typed in for the
> > leventy leventhy time and asks you to to start over and retype it all back
> > in again that???s when people???s heads explode out on the freeway and they vow
> > they start making vows they shake their fist up at the clouds out the
> > window and they start making all sorts of vows invoking pitch forks
> > lightning bolts skulls crosst bones and all sorts of infernal regions which
> > they grab just like chimpanzees - a I???m sorry I just called them a
> > chimpanzee thats not right that???s so wrong that???s specist sorry and it
> > isn???t fair to the rest of the chimpanzees so sorry sorry excuse me pardon
> > me just trying to be funny here so so me but not for money here    so
> >  and then they grab a gun and start waving it out the winda and start
> > looking at some body to shoot at (US 2018) one of them dang liberals but
> > there???s no body around until they catch a glimps of somebody  in the mirror
> > and that???s no fun for they next of kin so son which is great fun for the
> > peanut gallery but hey not much else who all advocate vociferously for all
> > such failures to be included in all payment GUIs from here to the here
> > after and on to eternity those speaking hearing deaf mutes because they
> > have not got any kids    yet but when they do their kids will all turn on
> > them and they will then pray tell    me too    and    nobody told me
> >  this was going to happen so then so then from then on you cannot get blood
> > out of a stone that???s twice shy and twice burned unless they???re backed up
> > at the edge of a cliff or paywall hi and they got to like my           like
> > my my or maybe they would rather just die<?????????-[ not advocating this ] click
> >
> > so up with paypal and whatever else makes it easy no doubt they are
> > looking at crypto if not or visa will  not too sleezy )<???-[ absoluteDrivel ]
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 09:56 Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Leon,
> >>
> >> > On Aug 14, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Leon Matthes <leon.matthes at student.hpi.de>
> >> wrote
> >>
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >> > Just one more question:
> >> > I'm new to committing to the Inbox, if I change the code to not use
> >> > allInstances, what would be the best procedure to upload the changes to
> >> the
> >> > Inbox?
> >> > Should I just commit as usual, which would create a completely new
> >> thread in
> >> > the forum, or is there some way to upload the changes to the existing
> >> thread
> >> > apart from just linking to an upload of the .mcz?
> >>
> >> That???s a good point.  It might be nice if mail readers could thread
> >> across closely related subjects, but we can???t expect that they will :-).
> >> As far as committing you have no choice; you have to start from your
> >> original commit or a merge with another version of the same package.  But
> >> if you want to join the two threads you can always use some hack such as
> >> responding to the new thread with a message that contains a link to the old
> >> thread in the mail archive.
> >>
> >> > Kind regards and thanks to everyone for your help ;-),
> >> > Leon
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> _,,,^..^,,,_
> best, Eliot

> 



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