[V3dot10] RE: About Monticello and http://bugs.impara.de/squeak/view.php?id=5217

[Bert Freudenberg]

Hi Ron,

actually you seem to confuse *updating* a config with *installing* it.

The #initialize problem Andreas and Philippe talked about occurs when  
installing, not when updating. Because the packages are not installed  
in the same order as listed in the configuration, their classes'  
#initialize methods get called in an unpredictable order. That means  
some configs are not loadable, for example, if the first package in  
it adds a new compiler that has to be initialized before even parsing  
the next package.

What you are proposing makes sense, but is a totally different problem.

- Bert -

On Mar 11, 2007, at 1:59 , Ron Teitelbaum wrote:

> I'm on the list already.  It's not an easy question since both  
> methods are
> useful.  I suppose the best solution is to change the button so  
> that it does
> all three methods.
>
> 1) Update from Image
> 2) Get Largest Version Number From Reposistories
> 3) Update From Repositories in order
>
> Or something like that.
>
> Otherwise we need to just pick which one is the better.
>
> The arguments are good on both sides.  Either we place greater  
> emphasis on
> version numbers, or we prefer one repository over another.   
> Preferring one
> repository over another prevents the code from initialize when you  
> are not
> expecting it.  Preferring higher version numbers allows you to fork  
> a local
> path for bug fixing temporarily and then move back to the main  
> development
> repository when the bug in integrated back in.
>
> I suggest we put all three methods in, maybe with better names, so  
> that we
> can get the best of both worlds, as long as everyone agrees that  
> it's not
> too complicated.
>
> Ron Teitelbaum
>
>> From: Edgar J. De Cleene
>>
>> Ron:
>>
>> I following some of How-to Monticello Configuration thread and this
>> morning
>> in "Discussion about development of Squeak 3.10"
>> <v3dot10 at lists.squeakfoundation.org> some drives me to your report
>>
>> http://bugs.impara.de/squeak/view.php?id=5217
>>
>>
>> I need the best Monticello, as was decided what 3.10 should do all  
>> what
>> possible using Monticello.
>>
>> But seems several different opinions of what the better / right  
>> version
>> is.
>>
>> If you could find some time to join into the list...
>>
>> Edgar