Squeak-dev December 2007

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Traits question
by itsme213 18 Dec '07

18 Dec '07

How are Traits and Monticello supposed to work together? e.g. With Monticello I (expect to) add methods to others' classes, while managing and versioning these methods in my package. Object>>myMethod1 Object>>myMethod2 If I have #myMethod1/2 in a trait, can I apply them to the Object class and still have them Monticello-managed correctly in my package? Thanks - Sophie

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Anybody got Java Parser for Squeak?
by Todd Blanchard 18 Dec '07

18 Dec '07

Must be able to parse the latest abomination with 'generics' and such. I'd rather not have to use ANTLR -Todd Blanchard

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updated info regarding license
by Hilaire Fernandes 17 Dec '07

17 Dec '07

I updated information regarding relicensing at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6016 * included PDF agreement document so it is easy to find it * notes regarding several authors agreement situation http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6022 found on the list or sent privately to me. Also I need to know which image was used to apply the Andrew Black script? I want to reapply it. This script does not work on 3.8.1-basic. It works on 3.8.1-full but I got more authors when using the script, or may be the author list from the script is not up to date. The author list from the script is stamped 26 July 2007, 3:59:54 pm pacific time. I try to track and write down in the wiki the recent agreement changed in the wiki, but I guess there are more. Please update or provide information! Any additional informations is welcome, thanks. Community in service Hilaire

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Re: Image setup question
by Amos 17 Dec '07

17 Dec '07

Hi Damien and everyone else, > > Hi Amos, > > I would advise you to use a squeak-dev or squeak-web image. See > http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev.html for more information. > Feel free to ask any question about these images. > > I can see 4 ways of loading things in your image: > > - Universe: it's a set of packages known to work together. Every > package you find in the universe browser should be loadable into the > image. If it's not the case, please report the bug. > - Monticello: it's a kind of Store. There, you will find latest > versions of tools, not always stable. > - SqueakMap: it contains all the packages that have been released for > Squeak since SqueakMap creation. Most of the packages won't load, but > you can find things that can't be found anywhere else. > - Drag&Drop: if you download a file (either .mcz, .st, .sar, .cs...), > you can always drag & drop it into the squeak desktop and Squeak will > ask you what to do (load, explore...). > Thanks for the info, I'll be sure to have a closer look at those images and the ways of loading stuff over the weekend. Thanks also to Ramon for pointing out that your browser customisation has been "decommissioned" (I'll see what the OmniBrowser is like and then extend that if there's any additional functionality I want), and to Herbert for pointing out the explore option (I'd seen it but hadn't used it, I imagine it can be quite useful in some cases). > > > Playing around with a few things, I missed the option to "dive into" > > an element from an Inspector and then "pop" back out to the previously > > inspected object(s) > > > you can always press ALT+i (or CTRL+i) on an element to inspect it. > So, you can "dive into" a field by just pressing this shortcut or > right clicking and selecting "inspect it". > > > > , so I modified the Inspector class to add those > > options. Is something like that useful enough to submit the code > > somewhere for others to load? Or am I re-inventing the wheel and > > someone's already done that? > > > It can be useful. What have you done exactly? > What I've done is to add the ability, like in VW, to "dive into" an attribute of an object being inspected without opening a new inspector, i.e. in the same window. So for instance if you inspect something like, say: OrderedCollection with: 'abc' with: #(1 2 'def') then click on the collection's second element, i.e. the Array, right-click and "dive into" it, the inspector's object is updated to be the Array instead of the OrderedCollection. You could then dive further into the SmallIntegers or the ByteString, or "pop" back out to the previously inspected object. The Inspector instance remembers its own history, so any number of dives can be retraced to the initial object. For convenience, the double-click action on a selected attribute is defined to be "dive into", unless you double-click on "self" in the inspector, in which case you "pop" back one step. I haven't found a good way of updating the window title yet, so it's a bit hacky for now (checking the inspector's dependents for a SystemWindow doesn't seem very elegant), but otherwise it works great. Just a convenient way of drilling down through various layers of objects and being able to back up if need be, without having 16 inspectors cluttering up your screen when you're done ;-) > > > Any help or pointers where to read up on this stuff would be greatly > > appreciated. > > Any feedback on your user experience would be greatly appreciated too :-). > > -- > Damien Cassou Certainly looks like I've found the right place to ask questions - everyone on this list seems very friendly and helpful - thanks again guys =o) I've also downloaded the Squeak By Example book and will work my way through that as time allows to get a feel for all those Squeak-specific things like Morphs and what-have-yous. Cheers, Amos

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How to get compact printout of code for (old fashioned) offline reading ?
by itsme213 17 Dec '07

17 Dec '07

I tried a fileout, but it's syntax is full of repetitive stuff and therefore bulky. What other options do I have? Plain text would be fine, syntax coloring fonts etc. not essential. Something loosely like this would be great WADictionaryRoot subclass: #StMagmaDatabase instanceVariableNames: '' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: '' category: 'STTutTodoApp' StSession-#initialize super initialize. self db: (self magma rootAs: StMagmaDatabase) Thanks - Sophie

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Monticello bug or fingertrouble?
by Trygve Reenskaug 17 Dec '07

17 Dec '07

I try to open Monticello on my own repository: Squeak3.10.gamma.7159.3.image open.. MonticelloBrowser +Repository/HTTP/ MCHttpRepository location: 'http://folk.uio.no/trygver/babymc/' user: '' (The repository is unprotected) password: '' (The repository is unprotected) accept Repository appears in the repository list. Then I try to open it open (above repository) Bad result: SORRY BUT THE VM HAS CRASHED Grateful for hints --Trygve (I know I am supposed to use Universes, but it is even worse. (See separate e-mail) -- Trygve Reenskaug mailto: trygver(a)ifi.uio.no Morgedalsvn. 5A http://folk.uio.no/trygver N-0378 Oslo Tel: (+47) 22 49 57 27 Norway

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Universes crashes
by Trygve Reenskaug 17 Dec '07

17 Dec '07

I try to open Universes in my virgin image: Squeak3.10.gamma.7159 open... PackageUniverseBrowser push 'update list from network' Sorry but the VM has crashed. .... I want to make a BabyUML experiment with roles as pragmas, but it seems beyond me... (It's too experimental for SqueakMap..) --Trygve -- Trygve Reenskaug mailto: trygver(a)ifi.uio.no Morgedalsvn. 5A http://folk.uio.no/trygver N-0378 Oslo Tel: (+47) 22 49 57 27 Norway

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Easy nice blogin in Squeak ?
by Edgar J. De Cleene 16 Dec '07

16 Dec '07

Folks: Sad to say , I was the tester of SmallBlog - Weblog Server that is small, simple, and easy to use. Now I see some like http://blogs.inextenso.com/seaside/blog/learning, based in SamllBlog , but sure not the code I have. So, where I could found and unload the last ? Or for doing some Seaside Photo album without think ? I have the photos of my walk tomorrow, wish to share with friends. I refuse to use no - Squeak solutions The foto is Teatro El Circulo- in this place sing Enrico Caruso. Edgar

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FUN Squeak wish a home for download
by Edgar J. De Cleene 16 Dec '07

16 Dec '07

I send again the Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 08:27:34 -0300 mail, links are not actualized. Cheers > 3ShortTangos folder contains > Amablemente.mp3 > Bajo Belgrano.mp3 > Destellos.mp3 > FUNSqueak3.10.1beta.7155.changes > FUNSqueak3.10.1beta.7155.image > > And is packed this way for quick start of SqueakAmp, when user choose his own > music, takes some tiiiiiimeeeeee. > > Into the FunSqueak, you find > Shout > Fabrik > MorphicWrappers > MathMorphs > SendTreeExplorer > Tracing Messages Browser > DebugReport > Network-IRC > Scheduler > ToothPick > Rompecabezas > MoviesFor3dot10 > SqueakAmp > LogicCircus > Connectors > Keymapping > BabySRE > > And some of Jerome, without his knowledge > > I put in http://ftp.squeak.org/3.10alpha/3ShortTangos.zip as I don't have > access to other dir. > > Ken, Brad, could move to appropriate and send notice to community ? > > Edgar People. I actualize FunSqueak, delete 3ShortTangos.zip and now I put http://ftp.squeak.org/3.10alpha/FunSqueak3.10alpha.1.zip To previous list, I add Squeak 3D, RefactoringBrowser, and FreeType. I follow Jerome suggestion to name alpha and treat as derivative of 7159 base image. It's the image I take to Smalltalks 2007 (Buenos Aires) and if any of you wish I say some to people , let me know. Please actualize info and links. Edgar P.S No computer was harmed in the made of this image :=)

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Re: [ANN] LevelPlayingField
by Keith Hodges 16 Dec '07

16 Dec '07

Todd Blanchard wrote: > So this script basically loads up packages that removes a bunch of api > incompatibilities across versions all the way back to 3.7? That is > AWESOME. > > It would be really cool if you were to include the > package 'http://www.squeaksource.com/Glorp37Compat' > <http://www.squeaksource.com/Glorp37Compat%27> > as this contains a bunch of compatibility methods for 3.7's String and > Character methods (there's nothing really glorp specific in it). Lots > of post-3.7 code uses these methods and thus won't load in 3.7. Among > them, the postgres client. Ok... added to http://installer.pbwiki.com/LevelPlayingField-Squeak3%3A7 cheers Keith

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