Squeak-dev January 2012

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Squeak, OpenGL and Spoon
by Edgar J. De Cleene 18 Jan '12

18 Jan '12

Yesterday Lawson English help me and send some links for I could build a SqueakCoreOGL4.3.image. Think is a necessary step before some day we have Spoon + OGL. All works in old Squeak 4.2.5beta1U which use in all Mac computers but not in Cog John Squeak 5.8b4 I attach the debug.log. Also fails in some old Croquet VM I have. Any idea why works in non Cog and not in newer ? Edgar P.S Thanks Lawson, I enjoying your tutorials

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Re: [Pharo-project] Saga of trying to integrate IDE with OpenGL continuesRe: [squeak-dev] Re:NativeBoost and NBOpenGL on Mac?
by Lawson English 17 Jan '12

17 Jan '12

That is really Igor's job, not mine. I'm just throwing together stuff using the original Croquet OpenGL calls and making videos of what I'm doing. L. On 1/17/12 10:31 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Keep going. I would love to have opengl well integrated. > > Alexandre > > > > On 16 Jan 2012, at 23:44, Lawson English wrote: > >> The latest video in the saga: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsJmBwi9lDY >> >> BTW, the video I mentioned a day or so ago now has 90 views, in only 3 days. >> >> People who want to promote squeak/pharo/seaside/etc to the world at large should take note. >> >> L. >> >> >> >> >> On 1/14/12 12:20 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >>> [...] >>>>> well, one of the ideas is to use fallback display in case of openGL >>>>> error(s). >>>>> And render not to GL context but to bitmap. Then you can actually use >>>>> debugger to debug GL calls step by step >>>>> without interfering with GL stack/state. >>>>> Another approach would be to create a separate GL context and use it >>>>> for debugger. But then you need to keep an eye >>>>> for switching active contexts at right moment. >>>>> >>>>>> L. >>>>>> >>> >>

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Shortcut to close a system window
by Marcel Taeumel 17 Jan '12

17 Jan '12

Hi. Is there a keyboard shortcut to close a system window that has focus? Marcel -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Shortcut-to-close-a-system-window-tp4281625p4281625.h… Sent from the Squeak - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Re:NativeBoost and NBOpenGL on Mac?
by Lawson English 17 Jan '12

17 Jan '12

[cross-posting this reply because it certainly seems relevant to both Pharo and Squeak] This seems to me to be roundabout, and will make sure that any Mac version of OpenGL will be far slower than any Windows version. What I'm not understanding is how the current OpenGL libs can render directly on the screen on a Mac, while the Igor's can't. The Croquet OpenGL package appears to be grabbing something from the Baloon3D plugin, I think. Has anyone looked at how THAT tells OpenGL libs to render to the appropriate area on the system window? primCreateRenderer: flags x: x y: y w: w h: h <primitive: 'primitiveCreateRendererFlags' module:'B3DAcceleratorPlugin'> ^nil L On 1/11/12 1:22 AM, Fernando Olivero wrote: > I've developed a CocoaUI app, which implements the example you copied. > A cocoa window, with a custom NSView, which renders an OpenGL surface. > The app also catches events, and notifies it via sockets. > > My idea is to render within Pharo to a frame buffer object(offscreen > rendering), and communicate the redisplay to the cocoa app via sockets > (IPC). > > So we can code all the UI in Smalltalk, using offscreen rendering as a > means to draw to a native OS X window. > > I will continue experimenting with this approach, to assess its > performance and usability. Wether IPC via sockets is fast enough, > amongst other technical challenges. > > Yes, i noticed two that the OpenGL info in the Mac, returns 'APPLE > SOFTWARE RENDERER 2.1". Surely we can find a way to solve this > problem, i will look into Lawson's link. > > Fernando > pd: Enjoy the vacations Igor, have a pint or two. > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Igor Stasenko<siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 10 January 2012 21:28, Stéphane Ducasse<stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> thanks >>> >>> May be this page is interesting: http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/GraphicsImaging/Conce… >>> >>> Igor how is london :) ? >>> >>> Crowded? >> like hell. :) >> Kiev is more or less same in this regard, so i already having immunity >> >> Yes, i will definitely get back to this issue, once i return from vacation. >> And now i should stop reading and replying mails and spend time on >> just resting :) >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. >> >

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[ANN] Amber Smalltalk 0.9.1 is out!
by Nicolas Petton 16 Jan '12

16 Jan '12

About 4 moons have passed and Amber - the Smalltalk for the web - has during that time moved forward quite a lot. Since the 0.9 release back in september we have made about 250 commits and closed 52 issues of about 75 reported during these months. Now with over 43 forks on github and more than 230 followers the project: http://www.amber-lang.net ...is live and kicking! A lot of cool stuff is being done in those forks and not in the master repository, like for example the gaming framework called Ludus by Bernat Romagosa: https://github.com/bromagosa/amber/tree/ludus ...or Ambrhino by Stefan Krecher - Amber running in Rhino: https://github.com/StefanKrecher/Ambrhino So, why would you take a look at Amber? In our opinion Amber is perfectly positioned for the HTML5 onslaught and the explosion of all-things-javascript like for example Nodejs. Amber plays very well with others and can seamlessly use Javascript libraries! It's a *real* Smalltalk, the environment is all there including Workspace, Transcript, Browser, senders/implementors/references to class, TestRunner, Inspectors, code editing with syntax coloring and a Debugger. There is no image or interpreter, all compilation is incremental. JavaScript is quite a broken language with lots of traps and odd quirks. It is the assembler of the Internet and we love it for that, but we don't want to write applications in it. Smalltalk is immensely cleaner, both syntactically and semantically with a simple class model and a lightweight syntax for closures. It is in many ways a perfect match for the Good Parts of JavaScript. And having a true live interactive incremental development environment where you can build your application directly in the browser is unbeatable... Below follows a summary of the major changes since release 0.9. We hope you join us in developing Amber and having fun! Fork at github, join in #amber-lang on freenode and hop onto the mailing list. regards, Nicolas & Göran ...and a BIG thanks to everyone that are involved in the project! --------------------------------------------- Here's a summary of changes since the 0.9 release: - 80 new unit tests written - 52 issues fixed - All classes in Kernel-Objects, Kernel-Classes and Kernel-Methods has been documented - New documentation framework (see http://amber-lang.net/documentation.html) - Better class organisations, "Kernel" package split into several packages - First class packages have replaced class categories - Internet Explorer 7+ compatibility - New Announcement framework ported from Pharo - New console-based REPL written in Amber using node.js - Symbol class implemented together with object identity and #== - New OrderedCollection and Set implementation - Dictionary can now have any kind of object as keys. String-key dictionary has been renamed HashedCollection - New TwitterWall example - Improved HTML Canvas, now compatible with IE7 - Improved JSObjectProxy for seemless JavaScript objects access from Amber - No more jQuery binding. Amber is fully capable of sending messages to JavaScript objects

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PortMidi from Squeak (again)
by NISHIHARA Satoshi 15 Jan '12

15 Jan '12

Hi all. is there anybody interested in using software synthesizer via PortMidi from Squeak? here is a screenshot using external software synthesizer from (Ex)ScorePlayerMorph. ex) https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=359330484092534 regards. -- -- "NISHIHARA Satoshi" [:goonsh :nsh | ^ nishis perform: goonsh with: nsh]

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Bug with morphic alignment
by Mateusz Grotek 15 Jan '12

15 Jan '12

I've submitted: http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7685

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Re: S8 Release Candidate in New York
by Leo De Marco 14 Jan '12

14 Jan '12

Hi Denis, Yes, it have MIT License. Leo

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Re: [squeak-dev] S8 Release Candidate in New York
by Leo De Marco 14 Jan '12

14 Jan '12

Hi Dennis, >How is it compared to Amber (http://amber.st/)? We do not have comparative datasheet with Ambar nor other similar approach to run smalltalk on top of javascript; and we have no plans to invest resources writing comparatives. We can say that S8 project (it is a project part of a research of more than ten years about modern formulation of Smalltalk) has same origins of source code as Ambar, but the reason and directions of development can be diferent; we dont know the guides and directions of Ambar, we have not spend time reading the web site nor talking with authors about their motivations and ideas about the persistence of the product in the future. Smalltalking will support S8 development as part of research and development platform of Smalltalk based Object Ambiences with the same compromise as it has been with all alternatives of software development based in Smalltalk +10 years before. S8 is media for exploring and learning about Object Technology as most of the sources hosted by http://www.smalltalking,net Best Regards, Leo De Marco 2012/1/13 Leo De Marco <leo(a)smalltalking.net> > Smalltaking is proud to announce that *S8 Release Candidate* is going to > be presented > in *New York* on *Tuesday March 6, 2012* thanks to *NYC Smallltalk > Developers* *group*. > > Presentation will start promptly at *7:00 at the offices of Suite LLC*, > 60 East 42nd Street, > Suite 914. The presentation are open to the general public. There will be > an open house > from 6:30 7pm for some pre-presentation chat.**** > > ** ** > > More details in > http://www.nycsmalltalk.org/2012/01/10/s8-release-candidate-smalltalk-on-js/ > **** > > ** ** > > More Events in our home page in English at > http://www.smalltalking.net/indexe.htm**** > > ** ** > > Smalltalking Association.**** > > info(a)smalltalking.net**** > > ** ** > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------- > **** > > ** ** > > Smalltalking esta orgulloso de anunciar que *S8 - Release Candidate* sera > presentado en Nueva York**** > > el *martes 6 de marzo* organizado por el grupo de usuario de Smalltalk de > Nueva York.**** > > ** ** > > La presentacisn comenzara a las *19hs en las oficinas de Suite LLC* (60 > East 42nd Street, > Suite 914). La presentacisn esta abierto al pzblico en general. **** > > ** ** > > Mas detalles en > http://www.nycsmalltalk.org/2012/01/10/s8-release-candidate-smalltalk-on-js/ > **** > > ** ** > > Otros eventos en nuestro pagina principal en espaqol > http://www.smalltalking.net **** > > ** ** > > Asociacisn Smalltalking.**** > > info(a)smalltalking.net**** > > ** ** > > > > -- Dennis Schetinin

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S8 Release Candidate in New York
by Leo De Marco 13 Jan '12

13 Jan '12

Smalltaking is proud to announce that S8 Release Candidate is going to be presented in New York on Tuesday March 6, 2012 thanks to NYC Smallltalk Developers group. Presentation will start promptly at 7:00 at the offices of Suite LLC, 60 East 42nd Street, Suite 914. The presentation are open to the general public. There will be an open house from 6:30 7pm for some pre-presentation chat. More details in http://www.nycsmalltalk.org/2012/01/10/s8-release-candidate-smalltalk-on-js/ More Events in our home page in English at http://www.smalltalking.net/indexe.htm Smalltalking Association. info(a)smalltalking.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------- Smalltalking está orgulloso de anunciar que S8 - Release Candidate será presentado en Nueva York el martes 6 de marzo organizado por el grupo de usuario de Smalltalk de Nueva York. La presentación comenzará a las 19hs en las oficinas de Suite LLC (60 East 42nd Street, Suite 914). La presentación está abierto al público en general. Mas detalles en <http://www.nycsmalltalk.org/2012/01/10/s8-release-candidate-smalltalk-on-js /> http://www.nycsmalltalk.org/2012/01/10/s8-release-candidate-smalltalk-on-js/ Otros eventos en nuestro pagina principal en español http://www.smalltalking.net Asociación Smalltalking. info(a)smalltalking.net

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