Hi,
I would like to present Smalltalk to my colleagues because they all think it's an old language of no interest which nobody uses. To prove them they are false, I would like to build a list of companies who are using Smalltalk every day. Can you please give me the names of your companies if they are using Smalltalk?
Thank you very much
Maybe you can also have a look at http://stic.st/stic?content=successes and at http://stic.st/demos/SmalltalkInIndustry.html
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cassou@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I would like to present Smalltalk to my colleagues because they all think it's an old language of no interest which nobody uses. To prove them they are false, I would like to build a list of companies who are using Smalltalk every day. Can you please give me the names of your companies if they are using Smalltalk?
Thank you very much
-- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Matthias Berth matthias.berth@googlemail.com wrote:
Maybe you can also have a look at http://stic.st/stic?content=successes and at http://stic.st/demos/SmalltalkInIndustry.html
Thank you. How old is the demo on the second link?
Damien Cassou <damien.cassou <at> gmail.com> writes:
Thank you. How old is the demo on the second link?
That video was done about a year ago.
I know from job postings and friends:
Florida Power and Light uses Smalltalk (Gemstone) Kansas City Power and Light uses Smalltalk
Most big companies don't tell you what they use. Competitive advantage and security are the two most common reasons.
I use it in my day job at Embarq telephone. I have a small Squeak Seaside app that talks to a MySQL database (we don't own that). It gets my team the reports they need and sidesteps the slow process of working with IT or external consultants. Definitely not part of the IT machine.
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:04 AM, James Robertson jarober@gmail.com wrote:
Damien Cassou <damien.cassou <at> gmail.com> writes:
Thank you. How old is the demo on the second link?
That video was done about a year ago.
Damien Cassou a écrit :
Hi,
I would like to present Smalltalk to my colleagues because they all think it's an old language of no interest which nobody uses. To prove them they are false, I would like to build a list of companies who are using Smalltalk every day. Can you please give me the names of your companies if they are using Smalltalk?
Hi Damien, there is a list on new ESUG web site :
http://www.esug.org/Smaltalk/Companies
There is also a list on the french wiki : http://community.ofset.org/index.php/Entreprises_utilisant_Smalltalk
Maybe these lists should be merged and consolidated.
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Serge Stinckwich Serge.Stinckwich@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Damien, there is a list on new ESUG web site :
http://www.esug.org/Smaltalk/Companies
There is also a list on the french wiki : http://community.ofset.org/index.php/Entreprises_utilisant_Smalltalk
Maybe these lists should be merged and consolidated.
Thanks for the pointers. Once I finish my presentation, I could change these wiki pages.
Damien Cassou a écrit :
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Serge Stinckwich Serge.Stinckwich@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Damien, there is a list on new ESUG web site :
http://www.esug.org/Smaltalk/Companies
There is also a list on the french wiki : http://community.ofset.org/index.php/Entreprises_utilisant_Smalltalk
Maybe these lists should be merged and consolidated.
Thanks for the pointers. Once I finish my presentation, I could change these wiki pages.
Yes, it would be nice to have an updated repository of companies using Smalltalk.
I could not find Deutsche Bahn (german railways) on the list:
RUT-K ("Rechnerunterstütztes Trassenmanagement Konstruktion") is a multi-user client-server system for the timetable management of big railway systems. It is used by Deutsche Bahn Netz AG to manage timetables of all trains on DB tracks in Germany.
There was a talk in 2006 about it: http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/userblogs/cincom/blogView?content=userConfere...
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Serge Stinckwich Serge.Stinckwich@gmail.com wrote:
Damien Cassou a écrit :
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Serge Stinckwich Serge.Stinckwich@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Damien, there is a list on new ESUG web site :
http://www.esug.org/Smaltalk/Companies
There is also a list on the french wiki : http://community.ofset.org/index.php/Entreprises_utilisant_Smalltalk
Maybe these lists should be merged and consolidated.
Thanks for the pointers. Once I finish my presentation, I could change these wiki pages.
Yes, it would be nice to have an updated repository of companies using Smalltalk.
-- Serge Stinckwich Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/
Damien,
This page on ESUG website has quite complete list of companies developing in Smalltlak:
http://www.esug.org/Smaltalk/Companies
Do you mean also companies which use smalltalk products (and maybe even don't know that:) ?
Best regards Janko
Damien Cassou wrote:
Hi,
I would like to present Smalltalk to my colleagues because they all think it's an old language of no interest which nobody uses. To prove them they are false, I would like to build a list of companies who are using Smalltalk every day. Can you please give me the names of your companies if they are using Smalltalk?
Thank you very much
On Jul 31, 2008, at 10:29 AM, Janko Mivšek wrote:
Damien,
This page on ESUG website has quite complete list of companies developing in Smalltlak:
http://www.esug.org/Smaltalk/Companies
Do you mean also companies which use smalltalk products (and maybe even don't know that:) ?
That list is very large, as more and more top websites uses Seaside.
Merik
Damien,
Auctomatic is seaside based. The Hawthorn Center ( www.hawcenter.org) ) uses seaside. Many universities and companies uses Croquet, ask Darius Clark, John Dougan or Julian Lombardi. Rob Vens has a few more names I think; http://www.robvens.nl/lang-en/blog .
I have figures about the numbers of users worldwide I can digg up. Want me to do that? I would be very interested to hear your results, and publish them if I may.
My profound thanks for the developer images, I could not imagine living without them anymore.
Merik Voswinkel
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Merik Voswinkel macmerik@xs4all.com wrote:
Auctomatic is seaside based. The Hawthorn Center ( www.hawcenter.org) ) uses seaside. Many universities and companies uses Croquet, ask Darius Clark, John Dougan or Julian Lombardi. Rob Vens has a few more names I think; http://www.robvens.nl/lang-en/blog. I have figures about the numbers of users worldwide I can digg up. Want me to do that? I would be very interested to hear your results, and publish them if I may.
Hi Merik,
thank you very much. I would really like to use your figures. I will send the presentation once I finish it.
My profound thanks for the developer images, I could not imagine living without them anymore.
No problem :-), I plan to continue working on them.
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Janko Mivšek janko.mivsek@eranova.si wrote:
Damien,
This page on ESUG website has quite complete list of companies developing in Smalltlak:
http://www.esug.org/Smaltalk/CompaniesDo you mean also companies which use smalltalk products (and maybe even don't know that:) ?
Would be cool too I guess. I will separate the companies in different categories.
Hi Damien,
I can add that we're using Squeak at IBM Research for some exploratory projects.
John
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Subject [squeak-dev] Smalltalk customers
Hi,
I would like to present Smalltalk to my colleagues because they all think it's an old language of no interest which nobody uses. To prove them they are false, I would like to build a list of companies who are using Smalltalk every day. Can you please give me the names of your companies if they are using Smalltalk?
Thank you very much
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:44:54 -0400, John Richards ajtr@us.ibm.com wrote:
Hi Damien,
I can add that we're using Squeak at IBM Research for some exploratory projects.
A big chunk of the Proviso product (which IBM bought from MicroMuse/Quallaby) is still written in Visualworks.
Later, Jon
-------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Hylands Jon@huv.com http://www.huv.com/jon
Project: Micro Raptor (Small Biped Velociraptor Robot) http://www.huv.com/blog
Jon Hylands ha scritto:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:44:54 -0400, John Richards ajtr@us.ibm.com wrote:
Hi Damien,
I can add that we're using Squeak at IBM Research for some exploratory projects.
A big chunk of the Proviso product (which IBM bought from MicroMuse/Quallaby) is still written in Visualworks.
Later, Jon
One of IBM Rational line of products (Requisite Pro ?) is written in Digitalk Smalltalk :
I've seen a stack trace googling for Smalltalk on .ibm.com ...
Best regards,
Davide -- Ing. Davide Grandi davide.grandi@mclink.it
Damien,
On Jul 31, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
There is also a list on the french wiki : http://community.ofset.org/index.php/Entreprises_utilisant_Smalltalk
Maybe these lists should be merged and consolidated.
Thanks for the pointers. Once I finish my presentation, I could change these wiki pages.
I could set up an new wiki for you, and I think Rob Vens could find someone to keep it updated in the future.
As a stopgap solution you can use the two wiki's below right away, I'll transfer them to a proper place on friday and put a domain on them. Tell me what you need and I'll arrange it.
http://squeakphone.wiki.xs4all.nl/index.php?title=Main_Page http://www.macmerik.nl:8080/seaside/pier
My professional Linkedin groups on Smalltalk will certainly be able to supply more names, and be interrested in the list as a broadcast.
Do not forget the www.cmsbox.com or netstyle.ch customers.
Merik
We use Smalltalk, CoBSS S.A. Fribourg, Switzerland.
/Klaus
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:37:43 +0200, Damien Cassou wrote:
Hi,
I would like to present Smalltalk to my colleagues because they all think it's an old language of no interest which nobody uses. To prove them they are false, I would like to build a list of companies who are using Smalltalk every day. Can you please give me the names of your companies if they are using Smalltalk?
Thank you very much
Looks like the esug email address (esug-info@esug.org) is being rejected...
Here's a link to our webstite since we use Squeak for product development:
Regards, Gary
"Damien" == Damien Cassou damien.cassou@gmail.com writes:
Damien> I would like to present Smalltalk to my colleagues because they all Damien> think it's an old language of no interest which nobody uses. To prove Damien> them they are false, I would like to build a list of companies who are Damien> using Smalltalk every day. Can you please give me the names of your Damien> companies if they are using Smalltalk?
Haven't seen anyone mention seaside.gemstone.com which links to GemStone's success stories, including OOCL, which is a giant 5-continent smalltalk application tracking a large portion of all overseas shipping containers.
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