Any recommendations or opinions about packages (not necessarily squeak-based, though slightly prefered) that may be useful for kids in 7-9 grade to experiment and learn more about algebra, math, geometry?
All suggestions appreciated.
Thanks - Sophie
I suppose you are familiar with Etoys? And you've seen the recently updated http://squeakland.org page? There is great stuff in the example projects that come with the new etoys image..
And you know DrGeo II? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/DrGeo It's a lot of fun to make geometric figures and see them come alive (see the demo videos)
Cheers Matthias
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 9:12 PM, itsme213 itsme213@hotmail.com wrote:
Any recommendations or opinions about packages (not necessarily squeak-based, though slightly prefered) that may be useful for kids in 7-9 grade to experiment and learn more about algebra, math, geometry?
All suggestions appreciated.
Thanks - Sophie
Hi Sophie,
more about etoys and math... You know that when you take the car (or an ellipse, whatever morph) and give it the script
car forward 5 car turn right 2
it will go in a circle.(you ´can put the pen down to see the trace) Let the kids try that for different speeds and angles - it is always a circle. WHY?
Make two mice, one moving in a circle, the other one just moving towards the first (chasing it). Watch the curves that the second mouse draws.
Cheers
Matthias
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Matthias Berth matthias.berth@googlemail.com wrote:
I suppose you are familiar with Etoys? And you've seen the recently updated http://squeakland.org page? There is great stuff in the example projects that come with the new etoys image..
And you know DrGeo II? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/DrGeo It's a lot of fun to make geometric figures and see them come alive (see the demo videos)
Cheers Matthias
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 9:12 PM, itsme213 itsme213@hotmail.com wrote:
Any recommendations or opinions about packages (not necessarily squeak-based, though slightly prefered) that may be useful for kids in 7-9 grade to experiment and learn more about algebra, math, geometry?
All suggestions appreciated.
Thanks - Sophie
"Matthias Berth" matthias.berth@googlemail.com wrote in message
it will go in a circle.(you Žcan put the pen down to see the trace) Let the kids try that for different speeds and angles - it is always a circle. WHY?
Make two mice, one moving in a circle, the other one just moving towards the first (chasing it). Watch the curves that the second mouse draws.
Nice, thanks for the hints.
Any thoughts on pros/cons of Scratch vs. eToys?
Sophie
Am 14.09.2008 um 00:27 schrieb itsme213:
"Matthias Berth" matthias.berth@googlemail.com wrote in message
it will go in a circle.(you ´can put the pen down to see the trace) Let the kids try that for different speeds and angles - it is always a circle. WHY?
Make two mice, one moving in a circle, the other one just moving towards the first (chasing it). Watch the curves that the second mouse draws.
Nice, thanks for the hints.
Any thoughts on pros/cons of Scratch vs. eToys?
Scratch is easier to get into and more explorable, but has a limited set of functionality (which is good from a learner's perspective). Etoys is more powerful in many ways (and you can always escape to full Smalltalk) but also harder to grasp.
The website with project sharing is another plus for Scratch. There are project servers for Etoys, too, but not a central one.
- Bert -
Bert Freudenberg wrote:
Am 14.09.2008 um 00:27 schrieb itsme213:
"Matthias Berth" matthias.berth@googlemail.com wrote in message
it will go in a circle.(you ´can put the pen down to see the trace) Let the kids try that for different speeds and angles - it is always a circle. WHY?
Make two mice, one moving in a circle, the other one just moving towards the first (chasing it). Watch the curves that the second mouse draws.
Nice, thanks for the hints.
Any thoughts on pros/cons of Scratch vs. eToys?
Scratch is easier to get into and more explorable, but has a limited set of functionality (which is good from a learner's perspective). Etoys is more powerful in many ways (and you can always escape to full Smalltalk) but also harder to grasp.
The website with project sharing is another plus for Scratch. There are project servers for Etoys, too, but not a central one.
Are there any plans for making a central sharing site ?
Karl
Am 14.09.2008 um 14:54 schrieb Karl Ramberg:
Bert Freudenberg wrote:
Am 14.09.2008 um 00:27 schrieb itsme213:
"Matthias Berth" matthias.berth@googlemail.com wrote in message
it will go in a circle.(you ´can put the pen down to see the trace) Let the kids try that for different speeds and angles - it is always a circle. WHY?
Make two mice, one moving in a circle, the other one just moving towards the first (chasing it). Watch the curves that the second mouse draws.
Nice, thanks for the hints.
Any thoughts on pros/cons of Scratch vs. eToys?
Scratch is easier to get into and more explorable, but has a limited set of functionality (which is good from a learner's perspective). Etoys is more powerful in many ways (and you can always escape to full Smalltalk) but also harder to grasp.
The website with project sharing is another plus for Scratch. There are project servers for Etoys, too, but not a central one.
Are there any plans for making a central sharing site ?
Yes. Michael should know the real plan.
- Bert -
"Bert Freudenberg" bert@freudenbergs.de wrote
Scratch is easier to get into and more explorable, but has a limited set of functionality (which is good from a learner's perspective). Etoys is more powerful in many ways (and you can always escape to full Smalltalk) but also harder to grasp.
What are the top few things Etoys has over Scratch?
Thank you for your insights ... Sophie
Am 14.09.2008 um 16:27 schrieb itsme213:
"Bert Freudenberg" bert@freudenbergs.de wrote
Scratch is easier to get into and more explorable, but has a limited set of functionality (which is good from a learner's perspective). Etoys is more powerful in many ways (and you can always escape to full Smalltalk) but also harder to grasp.
What are the top few things Etoys has over Scratch?
Well, name everything that Squeak has. Scratch hides all of Squeak. You should try it for yourself.
- Bert -
"Bert Freudenberg" bert@freudenbergs.de wrote
What are the top few things Etoys has over Scratch?
Well, name everything that Squeak has. Scratch hides all of Squeak. You should try it for yourself.
Am doing so right now, thanks :-) It seems to have evolved quite a bit since I last looked at it.
Sophie
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