Thanks Torsten, I did see that discussion on Pharo and I was surprised to see the #hour vs. #hours discrepency myself. However, I'm curious whether Brent had a specific reason for doing it that way. We should consider that the propsed change IS stripping away functionality. What if I want to advance or retreat *in the direction of* by an increment of one-hour units based on whether something is positive or negative. Before I could simply write one word, "hour" now with this proposed change, I would have to write:

factor positive ifTrue: [ 1 hour ] ifFalse: [ -1 hour ]

Worse, I have no way to implement the directional-increment myself. If anything, I would rather *remove* the singulars altogether rather than overload them.

The "arguments" in the Pharo discussion were exceptionally weak -- in fact, almost non-existent. "It does not make sense," is the only thing I saw and even that was just the classic Pharo ideology of putting form before function.

This is not urgent at all -- we should ask Brent the motive or at least discuss it ourselves. It definitely should not go into 4.4 at this late stage.

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Torsten Bergmann astares@gmx.de wrote:

There was a discussion on Pharo list on methods like hours vs. hour minutes vs minute ...

with the agreement that it makes only sense to have the plural and singular forms the same.

This allows more natural treating of durations and fix some issues so things like:

0.5 hour minutes

or

(1/2) hour minutes

return 30 correctly, etc.

There are three Pharo issues ([2] [3] and [4]) for that.

I reworked the changes and test cases also for Squeak (see attached changeset) since should help being compatible at this level.

I can commit the changes to Squeak trunk - but at least maybe someone can shortly review them.

Thx Torsten

[1] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2012-October/070509.htm... [2] https://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6877 [3] https://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6876 (duplicate of 6877) [4] http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6886