As far as I know, the Casio E-105 is the fastest WinCE device currently
available, and using Andreas Raab's 2.4 VM with a 2.5 image, Morphic is not real pleasant. I'm fairly certain that this is a software problem. Andreas feels that it's not a problem with his VM implementation. That would narrow it to a problem in the image, or a WinCE problem. Personally, I haven't ruled out a WinCE VM problem yet, but I haven't found the "smoking gun" yet in either the image or VM, and I've been concentrating on the image side.
Under MVC, the E-105 is quite usable, but as I've mentioned in earlier
discussions about Squeak on the E-105, there are a number of issues UI that need to be dealt with for pen based interfaces, and Morphic only adds to that.
I'm actually seriously considering an E-105, for the reasons you mention. The problem, however, is *FINDING* one! I've tried literally a half-dozen sites, and EVERY ONE OF THEM has the E-105 back-ordered.
I really haven't found where the CPU time is getting consumed, but I
think the E-105 *should* be more than fast enough to run Squeak acceptably in Morphic. I basically bought my E-105 to run Squeak on, so I am spending whatever time I can looking into this. I hope you decide to go with the E-105, since a "power" Squeaker like you may be able to track down the bottlenecks I've been hunting for a lot faster.
-Dean Swan dean_swan@mitel.com
Thanks for the vote of confidence, Dean, but I still consider myself a Squeak adolescent (except where it comes to those VM and primitives issues where I'm downright infantile!) But if I can get one (or two!) of the E-105's, I can place them in our "Squeakers" Lab where the REAL hackers around here hangout, I think that magic can occur :-)
Mark
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You *could* settle for the E100. It's identical to the 105 but has less memory (ouch! Squeak would crawl) and doesn't have the cool multimedia apps (which are very buggy, not supported and fail to work most of the time.) S
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Guzdial [mailto:guzdial@cc.gatech.edu] Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 10:00 AM To: squeak@cs.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Recommended WinCE for Squeak?
I'm actually seriously considering an E-105, for the reasons you mention. The problem, however, is *FINDING* one! I've tried literally a half-dozen sites, and EVERY ONE OF THEM has the E-105 back-ordered.
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