In a message dated 2001-09-30 1:14:18 PM, karl.ramberg@chello.se writes:
Fleeberz@aol.com wrote:
I haven't gotten the hang of Smalltalk AT ALL yet, ...
The way I learned was by finding a simple morphic demo or program, change a few parameters, open the morph and see what had happened... Do this over and over again until you know what to change to get what you want. Then expand by cutting and pasting in code from other places, testing and debugging a few thousen times you will suddenly just know how to do it the next time.
A few thousand times? Oh weary me. I know that is not as much of a joke as it sounds like (although I can appreciate some humor from it as well), and is really likely to be a low estimate for many people, er, me. ;^)
I allways browse with optinal buttons on and use the senders of and implementors of all the time to see how stuff is used elsewere in the image.
Surely I've seen references to these things, but can't seem to recall where; looks like it's time to start looking. With luck, I'll trip over them early in the "search." Will be looking for preferences, and perhaps browser menu items such as "show implementors of..." and so on. See? It's easy! (?)
Thanks, Karl. I'd ask Cees or Bijan about it, but considering how I've treated those wonderful people in the past, I'm better off having my tail between my legs than nothing at all. :-/ (C, B, I'm sorry. Me bad.)
--Flee
On Sun, 30 Sep 2001 Fleeberz@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 2001-09-30 1:14:18 PM, karl.ramberg@chello.se writes:
Fleeberz@aol.com wrote:
I haven't gotten the hang of Smalltalk AT ALL yet, ...
Three books that were invaluable to me for catching a (for there are many) spirit of smalltalk: A Taste of Smalltalk (alas out of print) Smalltalk-80: the language and implementation (in print as the purple book) Kent Beck's Best Practice Patterns.
Inside Smalltalk is also very useful, as is another book I can't remember the name of.
I very much *like* the white and nuBlue books, but it's very hard for me to tell how good a job then do on instilling a spirit of Smalltalk (in addition to , or instand of, a spirit of squeak).
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I allways browse with optinal buttons on and use the senders of and implementors of all the time to see how stuff is used elsewere in the image.
Surely I've seen references to these things, but can't seem to recall where; looks like it's time to start looking. With luck, I'll trip over them early in the "search." Will be looking for preferences, and perhaps browser menu items such as "show implementors of..." and so on. See? It's easy! (?)
Heh.
cmd-n and cmd-m (browse senders adn implementors) are you friends! I remember teh day that Dan Ingalls mentioned those key commands, my fluency with the system skyrocketed.
Thanks, Karl. I'd ask Cees or Bijan about it, but considering how I've treated those wonderful people in the past, I'm better off having my tail between my legs than nothing at all. :-/ (C, B, I'm sorry. Me bad.)
I'm easy, I forgive at the drop of a hat. Cees, OTOH, Cees might want to see some hair shirt time! :)
Cheers, Bijan Parsia.
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