I think this is of general interest to all Squeakers:
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061118091048997
Nevin
2006/11/18, Nevin Pratt nevin@bountifulbaby.com:
I think this is of general interest to all Squeakers:
Just out of curiosity. They say it's FOSS. So what is the license of the OLPC image and VM? Apache as the article suggests?
Philippe
I mentioned it here: http://weeklysqueak.wordpress.com/2006/11/15/vote/
It is http://www.opensource.apple.com/apsl/ which is, I believe similar to, BSD http://developer.apple.com/opensource/ps-faq.html#anchor10 .
Ron Teitelbaum
-----Original Message----- From: squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:squeak-dev- bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Philippe Marschall Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:36 PM To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list Subject: Re: Groklaw article on Squeak
2006/11/18, Nevin Pratt nevin@bountifulbaby.com:
I think this is of general interest to all Squeakers:
Just out of curiosity. They say it's FOSS. So what is the license of the OLPC image and VM? Apache as the article suggests?
Philippe
On Nov 19, 2006, at 0:27 , Ron Teitelbaum wrote:
I mentioned it here: http://weeklysqueak.wordpress.com/2006/11/15/ vote/
It is http://www.opensource.apple.com/apsl/ which is, I believe similar to, BSD http://developer.apple.com/opensource/ps-faq.html#anchor10 .
Squeak has actually been relicensed a second time, under the Apache License 2.0:
http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
This is because although APSL is free (even by FSF standards) it has a patent clause that still prevents Linux distributors from using APSL-licensed code. Which was a problem for OLPC, which is why Alan Kay talked to Steve Jobs who agreed to relicense again. We got the idea because a similar thing happened to Bonjour (was APSL first, then Apache), so that is why we suggested the Apache license, since Apple's lawyers were familiar with that.
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Thanks for the clarification, I missed that.
Ron
-----Original Message----- From: Bert Freudenberg [mailto:bert@freudenbergs.de] Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 6:43 PM To: Ron@USMedRec.com; The general-purpose Squeak developers list Subject: Re: Groklaw article on Squeak
On Nov 19, 2006, at 0:27 , Ron Teitelbaum wrote:
I mentioned it here: http://weeklysqueak.wordpress.com/2006/11/15/ vote/
It is http://www.opensource.apple.com/apsl/ which is, I believe similar to, BSD http://developer.apple.com/opensource/ps-faq.html#anchor10 .
Squeak has actually been relicensed a second time, under the Apache License 2.0:
http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
This is because although APSL is free (even by FSF standards) it has a patent clause that still prevents Linux distributors from using APSL-licensed code. Which was a problem for OLPC, which is why Alan Kay talked to Steve Jobs who agreed to relicense again. We got the idea because a similar thing happened to Bonjour (was APSL first, then Apache), so that is why we suggested the Apache license, since Apple's lawyers were familiar with that.
- Bert -
On Nov 18, 2006, at 23:35 , Philippe Marschall wrote:
2006/11/18, Nevin Pratt nevin@bountifulbaby.com:
I think this is of general interest to all Squeakers:
Just out of curiosity. They say it's FOSS. So what is the license of the OLPC image and VM? Apache as the article suggests?
VM is MIT (see current SVN sources). Image is Apache.
Because we only ship the binary image and no sources in the OLPC OS builds, we could already release this under Apache license. However, Kim Rose is sending out contributor forms at the moment, all contributions since Squeak 1.1 are going to be MIT which is compatible with Apache. Once this is finished, source code will be fully under Apache, too, and we expect this to be finished before the first real OLPC laptop ships.
- Bert -
Thank you for posting that, Nevin. Interesting, inspiring and useful.
Gary
----- Original Message ----- From: "Nevin Pratt" nevin@bountifulbaby.com To: squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 4:30 PM Subject: Groklaw article on Squeak
I think this is of general interest to all Squeakers:
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061118091048997
Nevin
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Il giorno sab, 18/11/2006 alle 14.30 -0700, Nevin Pratt ha scritto:
I think this is of general interest to all Squeakers:
A thank you to our Ron and to the Groklaw crew is in order, since the link to Ron's article made the Weekly Squeak blog almost touch the 2000 hits per day.
Giovanni
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