Hi,
This is a proposal for the creation of a new team, the News Team. It is also a call for participation in the same team.
The purpose of this team is to publish news regarding Squeak development and use. It aims to provide a service to the Squeak community, highlighting anything which the Squeak users may find interesting. It will also try to promote Squeak outside its own community, by submitting articles and news items to mainstream websites such as Slashdot and OSNews.
The first task of this team will be publishing The Weekly Squeak. Ideally this news-zine will come to include all the Squeak-related mailing lists, blogs etc. The SqueakViews column will remain under the Weekly Squeak banner, at least initially.
So, if you are either a newcomer or experienced user, and you're interested in joining this team, please speak up and let us know you're available to help!
Thanks,
Giovanni
Hi Giovanni,
yes I'm a "newcomer or experienced user" and would like to help. My experience with Smalltalk is since 2.5 and wirj
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 23:18:14 +0200, Giovanni Corriga giovanni@corriga.net wrote:
Hi,
This is a proposal for the creation of a new team, the News Team. It is also a call for participation in the same team.
The purpose of this team is to publish news regarding Squeak development and use. It aims to provide a service to the Squeak community, highlighting anything which the Squeak users may find interesting. It will also try to promote Squeak outside its own community, by submitting articles and news items to mainstream websites such as Slashdot and OSNews.
The first task of this team will be publishing The Weekly Squeak. Ideally this news-zine will come to include all the Squeak-related mailing lists, blogs etc. The SqueakViews column will remain under the Weekly Squeak banner, at least initially.
So, if you are either a newcomer or experienced user, and you're interested in joining this team, please speak up and let us know you're available to help!
Thanks,
Giovanni
I support the formation of this team and will be it's coordinator. I will be coordinating with Giovanni to get a mailing list and any other support facilities setup.
Now is the time to get in on the ground floor of this important group, so don't wait to volunteer.
Also Giovanni suggested to me that this team would be a good choice for moderating a Squeak-Announce list if we decide to start one and I concur with him.
Ken
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 23:18 +0200, Giovanni Corriga wrote:
Hi,
This is a proposal for the creation of a new team, the News Team. It is also a call for participation in the same team.
The purpose of this team is to publish news regarding Squeak development and use. It aims to provide a service to the Squeak community, highlighting anything which the Squeak users may find interesting. It will also try to promote Squeak outside its own community, by submitting articles and news items to mainstream websites such as Slashdot and OSNews.
The first task of this team will be publishing The Weekly Squeak. Ideally this news-zine will come to include all the Squeak-related mailing lists, blogs etc. The SqueakViews column will remain under the Weekly Squeak banner, at least initially.
So, if you are either a newcomer or experienced user, and you're interested in joining this team, please speak up and let us know you're available to help!
Thanks,
Giovanni
Hi Giovanni,
yes I'm a "newcomer or experienced user" and am availabe to help producing The Weekly Squeak. My experience with Smalltalk is since 2.5 (Atari time :) and with Squeak since 3.6. I very much enjoy the activities and projects done with Squeak.
You can get in touch with me by email.
/Klaus
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 23:18:14 +0200, Giovanni Corriga giovanni@corriga.net wrote:
Hi,
This is a proposal for the creation of a new team, the News Team. It is also a call for participation in the same team.
The purpose of this team is to publish news regarding Squeak development and use. It aims to provide a service to the Squeak community, highlighting anything which the Squeak users may find interesting. It will also try to promote Squeak outside its own community, by submitting articles and news items to mainstream websites such as Slashdot and OSNews.
The first task of this team will be publishing The Weekly Squeak. Ideally this news-zine will come to include all the Squeak-related mailing lists, blogs etc. The SqueakViews column will remain under the Weekly Squeak banner, at least initially.
So, if you are either a newcomer or experienced user, and you're interested in joining this team, please speak up and let us know you're available to help!
Thanks,
Giovanni
My experience with Smalltalk is since 2.5 (Atari time :)
During oopsla, I was wondering with some couple of fellows from UCLA if there was a smalltalk on Atari ?
Cheers, Alexandre
Hi Alex, you wrote:
My experience with Smalltalk is since 2.5 (Atari time :)
During oopsla, I was wondering with some couple of fellows from
UCLA
if there was a smalltalk on Atari ?
The docs and config.guess files of GNU Smalltalk say they run on TOS and MiNT, but I've never tried it. Visit
- http://www.gnu.org/software/smalltalk/smalltalk.html
/Klaus
Cheers, Alexandre
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Am Sunday, 23. October 2005 22:57 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
My experience with Smalltalk is since 2.5 (Atari time :)
During oopsla, I was wondering with some couple of fellows from UCLA if there was a smalltalk on Atari ?
Cheers, Alexandre
Of course there was. A Smalltalk 80 port done by this company: http://www.heeg.de. I think they started selling it in 1988/1989.
Martin
Martin Kuball wrote:
Am Sunday, 23. October 2005 22:57 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
My experience with Smalltalk is since 2.5 (Atari time :)
During oopsla, I was wondering with some couple of fellows from UCLA if there was a smalltalk on Atari ?
Cheers, Alexandre
Of course there was. A Smalltalk 80 port done by this company: http://www.heeg.de. I think they started selling it in 1988/1989.
Martin
I'm one of the people who did that port of the ParcPlace Smalltalk "PS" virtual machine (which was a JIT written in 68K assembly code, the precursor of the current VisualWorks engine). Another one you'll probably recognize is Michael Rüger... The Atari port was really nice - we had one of the few 4160ST machines (it was before the MegaST4 came out) and a big monitor (don't remember the name). Since there was no truly usable compiler environment, we set up a cross-compiling system where we compiled on a PCS (german UNIX workstation), linked with a crude libc which interfaced to TOS, and transferred the resulting executable via ZModem to the Atari :-) One colleague of mine (Adreas Tönne) did some MIDI sequencing with Smalltalk on an Atari, and we even got a version of The Analyst running - in 4MBytes! For printing, we provided primitives to interface to the Atari laser printer which had just a high-speed memory interface but no memory of its own. We converted the TeX fonts at 300dpi into StrikeFonts and just used the normal CharacterScanner rendering mechanism to fill a page form, and then called the prim to output it. The Atari had about 25-28% Dorado, which isn't exactly speedy but was enough to get a number of things going. Considering its price and the fact that Georg was able to convince ParcPlace that there would be a market for a 400DM student license, this was one of the first truly affordable Smalltalk machines for home users.
Cheers, Hans-Martin
I'm one of the people who did that port of the ParcPlace Smalltalk "PS" virtual machine (which was a JIT written in 68K assembly code, the precursor of the current VisualWorks engine). Another one you'll probably recognize is Michael Rüger... The Atari port was really nice - we had one of the few 4160ST machines (it was before the MegaST4 came out) and a big monitor (don't remember the name). Since there was no truly usable compiler environment, we set up a cross-compiling system where we compiled on a PCS (german UNIX workstation), linked with a crude libc which interfaced to TOS, and transferred the resulting executable via ZModem to the Atari :-) One colleague of mine (Adreas Tönne) did some MIDI sequencing with Smalltalk on an Atari, and we even got a version of The Analyst running - in 4MBytes! For printing, we provided primitives to interface to the Atari laser printer which had just a high-speed memory interface but no memory of its own. We converted the TeX fonts at 300dpi into StrikeFonts and just used the normal CharacterScanner rendering mechanism to fill a page form, and then called the prim to output it. The Atari had about 25-28% Dorado, which isn't exactly speedy but was enough to get a number of things going. Considering its price and the fact that Georg was able to convince ParcPlace that there would be a market for a 400DM student license, this was one of the first truly affordable Smalltalk machines for home users.
Thanks very much for your information. I am truly an Atari fan...
I met Georg several times but I did not know he was involved in such project. Next time, I will not miss such occasion to ask questions :-)
Best Regards, Alexandre
Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Thanks very much for your information. I am truly an Atari fan...
Aaah, sweet memories ;-) Thanks Hans-Martin!
And all done without pizza or chinese food deliveries, an unheard of concept at that time in Germany ;-)
I met Georg several times but I did not know he was involved in such project. Next time, I will not miss such occasion to ask questions :-)
Yup, blame it on him that I'm stuck with Smalltalk ever since ;-)
Michael
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