Hi all!
With the help of Dan we now have simpler control over squeak.org!
Dan still owns the domain but it is now pointed at nameservers on zoneedit.com where I (Goran) have an account and can edit the domain in full using a simple web UI.
I have started with repointing squeak.org and www.squeak.org to box1.squeakfoundation.org (our community paid server) and hopefully our VirtualHost setup there will catch it and it will look just as before - we have already mirrored over the content.
These changes may cause down periods - it seems some areas of Internet are seeing the change of nameservers, but Zoneedit hasn't seen it yet. Anyway, if www.squeak.org is down for you I apologize and hopefully it will be available as soon as the DNS information has spread in full.
regards, Göran
Thank you Goran and Dan. This is a big step in getting the new Squeak home page into the public arena.
There is still work to be done. I am compiling some screenshots, for instance. Goran is working on some texts for the site. To find out how one may help to get the site live, please see my comments in the Website Team Update Report (http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2005-June/092246.html).
Thanks again to everyone helping to get the new Squeak.org site in the public's eye.
On 6/23/05, goran@krampe.se goran@krampe.se wrote:
Hi all!
With the help of Dan we now have simpler control over squeak.org!
Dan still owns the domain but it is now pointed at nameservers on zoneedit.com where I (Goran) have an account and can edit the domain in full using a simple web UI.
I have started with repointing squeak.org and www.squeak.org to box1.squeakfoundation.org (our community paid server) and hopefully our VirtualHost setup there will catch it and it will look just as before - we have already mirrored over the content.
These changes may cause down periods - it seems some areas of Internet are seeing the change of nameservers, but Zoneedit hasn't seen it yet. Anyway, if www.squeak.org is down for you I apologize and hopefully it will be available as soon as the DNS information has spread in full.
regards, Göran
Hi jason
I suggest not to point with Swiki for the screenshots Swiki look is ugly. I suggest also to do thumbnails as I did for my site http://smallwiki.unibe.ch/botsinc/ to speed up load.
Stef
On 23 juin 05, at 15:01, Jason Rogers wrote:
Thank you Goran and Dan. This is a big step in getting the new Squeak home page into the public arena.
There is still work to be done. I am compiling some screenshots, for instance. Goran is working on some texts for the site. To find out how one may help to get the site live, please see my comments in the Website Team Update Report (http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2005-June/ 092246.html).
Thanks again to everyone helping to get the new Squeak.org site in the public's eye.
On 6/23/05, goran@krampe.se goran@krampe.se wrote:
Hi all!
With the help of Dan we now have simpler control over squeak.org!
Dan still owns the domain but it is now pointed at nameservers on zoneedit.com where I (Goran) have an account and can edit the domain in full using a simple web UI.
I have started with repointing squeak.org and www.squeak.org to box1.squeakfoundation.org (our community paid server) and hopefully our VirtualHost setup there will catch it and it will look just as before - we have already mirrored over the content.
These changes may cause down periods - it seems some areas of Internet are seeing the change of nameservers, but Zoneedit hasn't seen it yet. Anyway, if www.squeak.org is down for you I apologize and hopefully it will be available as soon as the DNS information has spread in full.
regards, Göran
-- Jason Rogers
"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20
Hi Jason,
some screenshot... ftp://comtalk.net/pub/czech.png - the Czech version of Squeak ftp://comtalk.net/pub/seaside.png - Seaside application
-- Pavel
Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Squeak screenshots in various native languges is a nice idea !
Hilaire
And all the pages on the new site can (and should ? ) be localized. Help with that is needed. Karl
Pavel Krivanek a écrit :
Hi Jason, some screenshot... ftp://comtalk.net/pub/czech.png - the Czech version of Squeak ftp://comtalk.net/pub/seaside.png - Seaside application
-- Pavel
Screenshot with Squeak 3.7 on PocketPC (image size: 3.54 MB):
ftp://comtalk.net/pub/pocketpc.JPG
-- Pavel
So, what's the new ip address, or the dns server at zoneedit.com?
Is this a site squeak.org location: new content: old or a site squeak.org location: new content: new ?
At 10:36 AM 6/23/2005 +0200, you wrote:
Hi all!
With the help of Dan we now have simpler control over squeak.org!
Dan still owns the domain but it is now pointed at nameservers on zoneedit.com where I (Goran) have an account and can edit the domain in full using a simple web UI.
I have started with repointing squeak.org and www.squeak.org to box1.squeakfoundation.org (our community paid server) and hopefully our VirtualHost setup there will catch it and it will look just as before - we have already mirrored over the content.
These changes may cause down periods - it seems some areas of Internet are seeing the change of nameservers, but Zoneedit hasn't seen it yet. Anyway, if www.squeak.org is down for you I apologize and hopefully it will be available as soon as the DNS information has spread in full.
regards, Göran
Congrats, Goran & Dan!
Although congrats are perhaps a bit premature, it looks like http://squeak.org is showing a 504 Gateway Timeout for me, as of 7pm EDT. The DNS information must not have spread everywhere yet.
- Doug
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:36:37 +0200 , goran@krampe.se said:
Hi all!
With the help of Dan we now have simpler control over squeak.org!
Dan still owns the domain but it is now pointed at nameservers on zoneedit.com where I (Goran) have an account and can edit the domain in full using a simple web UI.
I have started with repointing squeak.org and www.squeak.org to box1.squeakfoundation.org (our community paid server) and hopefully our VirtualHost setup there will catch it and it will look just as before - we have already mirrored over the content.
These changes may cause down periods - it seems some areas of Internet are seeing the change of nameservers, but Zoneedit hasn't seen it yet. Anyway, if www.squeak.org is down for you I apologize and hopefully it will be available as soon as the DNS information has spread in full.
regards, Göran
Doug Way wrote:
Congrats, Goran & Dan!
Although congrats are perhaps a bit premature, it looks like http://squeak.org is showing a 504 Gateway Timeout for me, as of 7pm
It seems that the namelookup for squeak.org (still) completely fails.
Usually parts of the net just resolve to the old IP address while the change propagates.
Could somebody check that the DNS server setup is correct?
Michael
On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 05:13:08PM +0200, Michael Rueger wrote:
Doug Way wrote:
Congrats, Goran & Dan!
Although congrats are perhaps a bit premature, it looks like http://squeak.org is showing a 504 Gateway Timeout for me, as of 7pm
It seems that the namelookup for squeak.org (still) completely fails.
Usually parts of the net just resolve to the old IP address while the change propagates.
Could somebody check that the DNS server setup is correct?
Michael
Saturday, June 25, 10pm Pacific www.squeak.org is still not resolving for me. I have not been able to access the site since I saw the announcement it had moved.
Ross Boylan
Ross Boylan wrote:
On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 05:13:08PM +0200, Michael Rueger wrote:
Doug Way wrote:
Congrats, Goran & Dan!
Although congrats are perhaps a bit premature, it looks like http://squeak.org is showing a 504 Gateway Timeout for me, as of 7pm
It seems that the namelookup for squeak.org (still) completely fails.
Usually parts of the net just resolve to the old IP address while the change propagates.
Could somebody check that the DNS server setup is correct?
Michael
Saturday, June 25, 10pm Pacific www.squeak.org is still not resolving for me. I have not been able to access the site since I saw the announcement it had moved.
Ross Boylan
Same with me. Server not found. Been that way for days.
Nevin
Ross Boylan wrote:
On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 05:13:08PM +0200, Michael Rueger wrote:
Could somebody check that the DNS server setup is correct? Michael
Saturday, June 25, 10pm Pacific www.squeak.org is still not resolving for me. I have not been able to access the site since I saw the announcement it had moved.
Ross Boylan
The name lookup is already transfered to the new nameservers (NS8/NS13.zoneedit.com), but the name is obviously not registered on these nameservers yet.
Michael
Goran;
I've used ZoneEdit for years and never had a domain propagation take more than a day; might there be a problem in the setup? As of this morning www.squeak.org is still missing.
I'd be happy to help if I can.
Gary
----- Original Message ----- From: goran@krampe.se To: squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org; website@discuss.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:36 AM Subject: Beware, squeak.org repointed!
Hi all!
With the help of Dan we now have simpler control over squeak.org!
Dan still owns the domain but it is now pointed at nameservers on zoneedit.com where I (Goran) have an account and can edit the domain in full using a simple web UI.
I have started with repointing squeak.org and www.squeak.org to box1.squeakfoundation.org (our community paid server) and hopefully our VirtualHost setup there will catch it and it will look just as before - we have already mirrored over the content.
These changes may cause down periods - it seems some areas of Internet are seeing the change of nameservers, but Zoneedit hasn't seen it yet. Anyway, if www.squeak.org is down for you I apologize and hopefully it will be available as soon as the DNS information has spread in full.
regards, Göran
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It seems that zoneedit didn't publish the records. The root servers point to ns8/ns13.zoneedit.com, but these disclaim any knowledge about the domain...
BTW: we *have* nameservers running. Why are we relying on an external source?
On 6/26/05, Gary Fisher gafisher@sprynet.com wrote:
Goran;
I've used ZoneEdit for years and never had a domain propagation take more than a day; might there be a problem in the setup? As of this morning www.squeak.org is still missing.
I'd be happy to help if I can.
Gary
----- Original Message ----- From: goran@krampe.se To: squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org; website@discuss.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:36 AM Subject: Beware, squeak.org repointed!
Hi all!
With the help of Dan we now have simpler control over squeak.org!
Dan still owns the domain but it is now pointed at nameservers on zoneedit.com where I (Goran) have an account and can edit the domain in full using a simple web UI.
I have started with repointing squeak.org and www.squeak.org to box1.squeakfoundation.org (our community paid server) and hopefully our VirtualHost setup there will catch it and it will look just as before - we have already mirrored over the content.
These changes may cause down periods - it seems some areas of Internet are seeing the change of nameservers, but Zoneedit hasn't seen it yet. Anyway, if www.squeak.org is down for you I apologize and hopefully it will be available as soon as the DNS information has spread in full.
regards, Göran
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"BTW: we *have* nameservers running. Why are we relying on an external
source?"
Good question; I'm just a bystander here.
Gary
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cees De Groot" cdegroot@gmail.com To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 12:30 PM Subject: Re: Beware, squeak.org repointed!
It seems that zoneedit didn't publish the records. The root servers point to ns8/ns13.zoneedit.com, but these disclaim any knowledge about the domain...
BTW: we *have* nameservers running. Why are we relying on an external source?
On 6/26/05, Gary Fisher gafisher@sprynet.com wrote:
Goran;
I've used ZoneEdit for years and never had a domain propagation take more than a day; might there be a problem in the setup? As of this morning www.squeak.org is still missing.
I'd be happy to help if I can.
Gary
----- Original Message ----- From: goran@krampe.se To: squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org; website@discuss.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:36 AM Subject: Beware, squeak.org repointed!
Hi all!
With the help of Dan we now have simpler control over squeak.org!
Dan still owns the domain but it is now pointed at nameservers on zoneedit.com where I (Goran) have an account and can edit the domain in full using a simple web UI.
I have started with repointing squeak.org and www.squeak.org to box1.squeakfoundation.org (our community paid server) and hopefully our VirtualHost setup there will catch it and it will look just as before - we have already mirrored over the content.
These changes may cause down periods - it seems some areas of Internet are seeing the change of nameservers, but Zoneedit hasn't seen it yet. Anyway, if www.squeak.org is down for you I apologize and hopefully it will be available as soon as the DNS information has spread in full.
regards, Göran
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Hi people!
Sorry, I have been offline over the weekend and I just hoped this would resolve itself - but apparently it didn't.
Cees De Groot cdegroot@gmail.com wrote:
It seems that zoneedit didn't publish the records. The root servers point to ns8/ns13.zoneedit.com, but these disclaim any knowledge about the domain...
Mmm, and I can't figure out why.
BTW: we *have* nameservers running. Why are we relying on an external source?
Well, I just wanted it done. I can redo it and point at... what? Cees, can you give me the names and I will repoint it there? (box1.squeakfoundation.org simply?)
regards, Göran
a.ns.squeakfoundation.org and b.ns.squeakfoundation.org can be used. You need to add the zone records to /service/tinydns/root/data.local and then run make.
On 6/27/05, goran@krampe.se goran@krampe.se wrote:
Hi people!
Sorry, I have been offline over the weekend and I just hoped this would resolve itself - but apparently it didn't.
Cees De Groot cdegroot@gmail.com wrote:
It seems that zoneedit didn't publish the records. The root servers point to ns8/ns13.zoneedit.com, but these disclaim any knowledge about the domain...
Mmm, and I can't figure out why.
BTW: we *have* nameservers running. Why are we relying on an external source?
Well, I just wanted it done. I can redo it and point at... what? Cees, can you give me the names and I will repoint it there? (box1.squeakfoundation.org simply?)
regards, Göran
Hi!
Cees De Groot cdegroot@gmail.com wrote:
a.ns.squeakfoundation.org and b.ns.squeakfoundation.org can be used. You need to add the zone records to /service/tinydns/root/data.local and then run make.
Ok, will do asap.
regards, Göran
Cees De Groot cdegroot@gmail.com wrote:
a.ns.squeakfoundation.org and b.ns.squeakfoundation.org can be used. You need to add the zone records to /service/tinydns/root/data.local and then run make.
Ok, it seems you beat me to it, right? Last part in data.local:
.squeak.org:80.68.89.134:a .squeak.org:69.72.148.198:b +squeak.org:80.68.89.134 +www.squeak.org:80.68.89.134 +ftp.squeak.org:80.68.89.134
(make says it's up to date)
Anyway, the new repoint was done 60 seconds ago. Let's hope I didn't barf it yet again. :)
regards, Göran
Michael Rueger michael@impara.de wrote:
goran@krampe.se wrote:
Anyway, the new repoint was done 60 seconds ago. Let's hope I didn't barf it yet again. :)
Works now, but the virtual host entry fro squeak.org seems to be missing, ends up on the generic squeakfoundation page. www.squeak.org works.
Ok, I think I fixed it. Here the DNS still isn't updated so I can't see if it works.
Michael
regards, Göran
Hi!
Michael Rueger michael@impara.de wrote:
goran@krampe.se wrote:
Ok, I think I fixed it. Here the DNS still isn't updated so I can't see if it works.
Yup works! Thanks guys for the new server !
Onwards and upwards!
Indeed! And sorry for the downtime during the weekend. Anyway, now the next step is to handedit the current "old" site to include 3.8 (I will do that later this week) and then we are moving forward with the SmallWiki based stuff - but Jason has that ball.
Michael
regards, Göran
goran@krampe.se wrote:
Hi!
Michael Rueger michael@impara.de wrote:
goran@krampe.se wrote:
Ok, I think I fixed it. Here the DNS still isn't updated so I can't see if it works.
Yup works! Thanks guys for the new server !
Onwards and upwards!
Indeed! And sorry for the downtime during the weekend. Anyway, now the next step is to handedit the current "old" site to include 3.8 (I will do that later this week) and then we are moving forward with the SmallWiki based stuff - but Jason has that ball.
Thanks to all involved. So, to get to the new site you can go to http://www.squeak.org:7777/
I actually haven't been doing a lot here yet. I have been making some screenshots at home on the weekends (the day job has me overwhelmed during the week). I will get another report out on or about July 5th. Hopefully by that time I will have some screen shots on the site instead of links to SWiki.
Jason Rogers jacaetevha@fast-mail.org wrote:
Thanks to all involved. So, to get to the new site you can go to http://www.squeak.org:7777/
Looking pretty good so far. Even on Oregano2 without CSS (etc) support) it reads ok.
In the Downloads section, the RISC OS files can be obtained best by pointing people to http://www.rowledge.org/tim/squeak/RISCOSSqueak.html though I can trivially provide a single zip to store on box1 if that is a preferred option.
tim -- Tim Rowledge, tim@rowledge.org, http://www.rowledge.org/tim Protect your software at all costs; all else is meat.
Tim Rowledge wrote:
Jason Rogers jacaetevha@fast-mail.org wrote:
Thanks to all involved. So, to get to the new site you can go to http://www.squeak.org:7777/
Looking pretty good so far. Even on Oregano2 without CSS (etc) support) it reads ok.
In the Downloads section, the RISC OS files can be obtained best by pointing people to http://www.rowledge.org/tim/squeak/RISCOSSqueak.html though I can trivially provide a single zip to store on box1 if that is a preferred option.
tim
Tim Rowledge, tim@rowledge.org, http://www.rowledge.org/tim Protect your software at all costs; all else is meat.
The url to the vm on that page has a header tag in it... I linked to the vm directly from the new site Karl
Hi. When I was trying to install a package, Squeak raises an error I've never seen. "You have reached the size limit of the changes file.You must take action now to reduce it.Close this error. Do not attempt to proceed " My changes file is 33Mb size. I don't know how this happened. I have had much more heavy images files in older version, mut the changes file had never grown so much. I searched in the web but I didn't find anything about that. Would you help me with this problem? Could I simply change in method CompiledMethod>>chechToAdd: at: the variable filesizeLimite without expecting unusual behaviour?
Thanks in advance.
Sorry. One minute after I had written the former mail, I found the solution.
Smalltalk condenceChanges.
Anyway, I'm planning to use the Squeak image as a database. I think I will have problems with this changes size limit. Should I change this variable?
Thanks.
Norberto
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, Norberto Manzanos wrote:
Sorry. One minute after I had written the former mail, I found the solution.
Smalltalk condenceChanges.
Anyway, I'm planning to use the Squeak image as a database. I think I will have problems with this changes size limit. Should I change this variable?
No. What you see is size limit for the <image name>.changes file, which stores sources for code you write, load, file-in etc. It doesn't store smalltalk objects.
The image itself (which you want to use as db) can grow much larger, I don't know what the limit is, 1GB should be possible.
And there was much rejoicing! Thanks for getting this done.
So if I'm not mistaken, squeak.org shows the same site but on a new server, and squeak.org:7777 will be rolled out there "when it's ready".
Hi!
Simon Michael simon@joyful.com wrote:
And there was much rejoicing! Thanks for getting this done.
:)
So if I'm not mistaken, squeak.org shows the same site but on a new server, and squeak.org:7777 will be rolled out there "when it's ready".
Exactemente. It is now running under apache2 on box1.squeakfoundation.org. Well, "the same" but edited a bit. :)
And the squeak.org domain is now managed on the DNS server on box1, which means we could set up for example mail.squeak.org etc.
And one thing we have already done is to set up ftp://ftp.squeak.org - which from now on is the preferred primary archive of files and is the area which Bruce maintains. It is the same area accessible as http://box1.squeakfoundation.org/files - we should of course make a more suitable http-url - like say http://ftp.squeak.org or http://files.squeak.org or whatever. Opinions?
regards, Göran
goran@krampe.se wrote:
And one thing we have already done is to set up ftp://ftp.squeak.org - which from now on is the preferred primary archive of files and is the area which Bruce maintains.
+1.
Also +1 for phasing out mention of the old urls, even if we still support them, to reduce confusion.
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