Hi David
--- El jue 14-may-09, David T. Lewis lewis@mail.msen.com escribió:
De: David T. Lewis lewis@mail.msen.com Asunto: Re: [squeak-dev] Where is FilePlugin ? was Error installing Omnibase Para: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Fecha: jueves, 14 de mayo de 2009, 4:26 pm On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 08:58:01AM -0700, marcelo Cortez wrote:
Mariano , Folks
the 3.9.1 stock image seems to be fine, but the
OmniBase test require
FilePlugin. how to load it?
FilePlugin is included in the VMMaker package, available on SqueakSource.
You mean compiling ? The Vmmaker process is obscure for me, is posible avoid compiling? here any guide or link? Vmmaker brings a compiled version of this plugin? (dll files for win32 platform).
Tia
MDC.
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On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:47 PM, marcelo Cortez jmdc_marcelo@yahoo.com.arwrote:
Hi David
--- El jue 14-may-09, David T. Lewis lewis@mail.msen.com escribió:
De: David T. Lewis lewis@mail.msen.com Asunto: Re: [squeak-dev] Where is FilePlugin ? was Error installing
Omnibase
Para: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" <
squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Fecha: jueves, 14 de mayo de 2009, 4:26 pm On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 08:58:01AM -0700, marcelo Cortez wrote:
Mariano , Folks
the 3.9.1 stock image seems to be fine, but the
OmniBase test require
FilePlugin. how to load it?
FilePlugin is included in the VMMaker package, available on SqueakSource.
You mean compiling ? The Vmmaker process is obscure for me, is posible avoid compiling? here any guide or link? Vmmaker brings a compiled version of this plugin? (dll files for win32 platform).
yes.
You can try 2 things:
1) Be sure you don't have FilePlugin installed. In win32 you can pint:
SmalltalkImage current listLoadedModules
2) Try to download a http://squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.11.2-bin.zip
That VM has FilePlugin inside.
Cheers,
Mariano
Tia
MDC.
Yahoo! CocinaRecetas prácticas y comida saludable http://ar.mujer.yahoo.com/cocina/
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:47:11PM -0700, marcelo Cortez wrote:
--- El jue 14-may-09, David T. Lewis lewis@mail.msen.com escribi?:
De: David T. Lewis lewis@mail.msen.com Asunto: Re: [squeak-dev] Where is FilePlugin ? was Error installing Omnibase Para: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Fecha: jueves, 14 de mayo de 2009, 4:26 pm On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 08:58:01AM -0700, marcelo Cortez wrote:
Mariano , Folks
the 3.9.1 stock image seems to be fine, but the
OmniBase test require
FilePlugin. how to load it?
FilePlugin is included in the VMMaker package, available on SqueakSource.
You mean compiling ? The Vmmaker process is obscure for me, is posible avoid compiling? here any guide or link? Vmmaker brings a compiled version of this plugin? (dll files for win32 platform).
No, you do not need to compile anything.
I do not know what is in the OmniBase test, so apologies in advance if I am not giving the right information. However, this may help:
FilePlugin is a Smalltalk class, just like any other class. It happens to be part of the VMMaker package (on SqueakSource, or from SqueakMap or Universes if you do not mind a slightly older version).
I do not know why OmniBase tests would require FilePlugin, but assuming that it does use it for some reason, you can get a copy of the FilePlugin class by loading VMMaker.
For background (and you do not need to know this for Omnibase, but it may be of interest), the Squeak virtual machine (/usr/local/bin/squeak, or Squeak.exe) is written largely in Smalltalk. When building an executable Squeak VM, a number of Smalltalk classes are translated to C source code, and from that into executable machine code. The class FilePlugin is one of the Smalltalk classes that serve as "source code" in this process, such that it can both be used as ordinary Smalltalk, and can also be translated into C code for inclusion in the VM.
You do not need to worry about the executable FilePlugin module, because every Squeak VM already has this included (either directly compiled into the VM executable, or as a separate loadable module). If that were not the case, you would not be able to access files from Squeak, so you would not be able to load the image file or do much of anything.
So don't worry about the FilePlugin executable, it is already present in your Squeak system. On the other hand, the Smalltalk class FilePlugin (which you can think of as the source code for the executable FilePlugin) is only present if you load it e.g. from the VMMaker package on SqueakSource. Once you have loaded this into your image, the methods in class FilePlugin can be evaluated just like any other method. My guess would be that the OmniBase tests are evaluating some method in class FilePlugin (I don't know why), so you need to have the FilePlugin class loaded, but you should not need to worry about compiling anything.
Dave
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:58 PM, David T. Lewis lewis@mail.msen.comwrote:
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:47:11PM -0700, marcelo Cortez wrote:
--- El jue 14-may-09, David T. Lewis lewis@mail.msen.com escribi?:
De: David T. Lewis lewis@mail.msen.com Asunto: Re: [squeak-dev] Where is FilePlugin ? was Error installing
Omnibase
Para: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" <
squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Fecha: jueves, 14 de mayo de 2009, 4:26 pm On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 08:58:01AM -0700, marcelo Cortez wrote:
Mariano , Folks
the 3.9.1 stock image seems to be fine, but the
OmniBase test require
FilePlugin. how to load it?
FilePlugin is included in the VMMaker package, available on SqueakSource.
You mean compiling ? The Vmmaker process is obscure for me, is posible avoid compiling? here any guide or link? Vmmaker brings a compiled version of this plugin? (dll files for win32 platform).
No, you do not need to compile anything.
I do not know what is in the OmniBase test, so apologies in advance if I am not giving the right information. However, this may help:
FilePlugin is a Smalltalk class, just like any other class. It happens to be part of the VMMaker package (on SqueakSource, or from SqueakMap or Universes if you do not mind a slightly older version).
I do not know why OmniBase tests would require FilePlugin, but assuming that it does use it for some reason, you can get a copy of the FilePlugin class by loading VMMaker.
For background (and you do not need to know this for Omnibase, but it may be of interest), the Squeak virtual machine (/usr/local/bin/squeak, or Squeak.exe) is written largely in Smalltalk. When building an executable Squeak VM, a number of Smalltalk classes are translated to C source code, and from that into executable machine code. The class FilePlugin is one of the Smalltalk classes that serve as "source code" in this process, such that it can both be used as ordinary Smalltalk, and can also be translated into C code for inclusion in the VM.
You do not need to worry about the executable FilePlugin module, because every Squeak VM already has this included (either directly compiled into the VM executable, or as a separate loadable module). If that were not the case, you would not be able to access files from Squeak, so you would not be able to load the image file or do much of anything.
So don't worry about the FilePlugin executable, it is already present in your Squeak system. On the other hand, the Smalltalk class FilePlugin (which you can think of as the source code for the executable FilePlugin) is only present if you load it e.g. from the VMMaker package on SqueakSource. Once you have loaded this into your image, the methods in class FilePlugin can be evaluated just like any other method. My guess would be that the OmniBase tests are evaluating some method in class FilePlugin (I don't know why), so you need to have the FilePlugin class loaded, but you should not need to worry about compiling anything.
Dave
Wow! What a good explanation! Thanks for this Dave. I didn't know what FilePlugin was. I just saw it were as plugin.
Cheers,
Mariano
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