On Jul 2, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Josh Gargus wrote:
I think that Martin raises some good points. A few small changes can go a long way.
- The list 'Hot Sites' probably shouldn't be on the front page, for
all of the reasons that Martin lists. It would be more appropriate to add a 'Links' or 'Hot Sites' or 'Projects using Squeak' link to the navigation bar on the left.
- The order of the links in the navigation bar makes no sense.
'Seaside' comes before 'Documentation'?!? Seaside is very cool, but it does not define Squeak, and probably shouldn't be in the navigation bar at all (just put it under 'Links'/'Hot Sites'/'Projects using Squeak').
- If the 'Hot Sites' list is moved from the front page, we need to
put more stuff to replace it. I suggest adapting the opening text from the 'About' link:
Squeak is an open, highly portable Smalltalk implementation with powerful multimedia facilities. Squeak is the vehicle of a wide range of projects, ranging from education platforms to commercial web application development and beyond. <'beyond' could link to 'Hot Sites' page> Squeak runs on a virtual machine that is written entirely in Smalltalk, making it easy to debug, analyze, change, and port to new platforms.
Squeak is available for free via the Internet. Each release includes complete source code, and has platform-independent support for color, sound, network access, and more. A more complete description of what Squeak is and what makes it uniquely powerful can be found here <'here' links to 'About' page>
- The 'Get the Squeak CD or the Squeak DVD distributions' line
might go in another green box under 'Download' on the right. After all, they are just other ways of getting Squeak.
- The 'Documentation' section should prominently list the Squeak
Swiki at Georgia Tech. SmallWiki documentation does not belong in the documentation section. Perhaps add a new link at the end of the navigation bar on the left ('This Website'?).
Josh,
Agreed on all counts. I just went in and made a number of these changes - I hope the website team doesn't mind, but if they do, hey, that's why it's a wiki...
I also did a little cleanup of English grammar and usage, but there's still more that could be done there. I don't mind doing another pass at that later.
The front page does feel a little short and empty now, though. We may want to have a "featured project" or something rather than just the list of "hot sites".
Avi
Avi Bryant wrote:
On Jul 2, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Josh Gargus wrote:
I think that Martin raises some good points. A few small changes can go a long way.
- The list 'Hot Sites' probably shouldn't be on the front page, for
all of the reasons that Martin lists. It would be more appropriate to add a 'Links' or 'Hot Sites' or 'Projects using Squeak' link to the navigation bar on the left.
- The order of the links in the navigation bar makes no sense.
'Seaside' comes before 'Documentation'?!? Seaside is very cool, but it does not define Squeak, and probably shouldn't be in the navigation bar at all (just put it under 'Links'/'Hot Sites'/'Projects using Squeak').
- If the 'Hot Sites' list is moved from the front page, we need to
put more stuff to replace it. I suggest adapting the opening text from the 'About' link:
Squeak is an open, highly portable Smalltalk implementation with powerful multimedia facilities. Squeak is the vehicle of a wide range of projects, ranging from education platforms to commercial web application development and beyond. <'beyond' could link to 'Hot Sites' page> Squeak runs on a virtual machine that is written entirely in Smalltalk, making it easy to debug, analyze, change, and port to new platforms.
Squeak is available for free via the Internet. Each release includes complete source code, and has platform-independent support for color, sound, network access, and more. A more complete description of what Squeak is and what makes it uniquely powerful can be found here <'here' links to 'About' page>
- The 'Get the Squeak CD or the Squeak DVD distributions' line might
go in another green box under 'Download' on the right. After all, they are just other ways of getting Squeak.
- The 'Documentation' section should prominently list the Squeak
Swiki at Georgia Tech. SmallWiki documentation does not belong in the documentation section. Perhaps add a new link at the end of the navigation bar on the left ('This Website'?).
Josh,
Agreed on all counts. I just went in and made a number of these changes - I hope the website team doesn't mind, but if they do, hey, that's why it's a wiki...
I also did a little cleanup of English grammar and usage, but there's still more that could be done there. I don't mind doing another pass at that later.
The front page does feel a little short and empty now, though. We may want to have a "featured project" or something rather than just the list of "hot sites".
It looks nice. The text could be a little beefier And some pictures to maybe Karl
Thanks avi
I prefer this kind of positive feedback. Note that I'm not in the website team anymore (because I had no time) but thanks again for helping having a decent web site for Squeak.
May be having a separate website for developers would help? Stef
On Jul 2, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Josh Gargus wrote:
I think that Martin raises some good points. A few small changes can go a long way.
- The list 'Hot Sites' probably shouldn't be on the front page,
for all of the reasons that Martin lists. It would be more appropriate to add a 'Links' or 'Hot Sites' or 'Projects using Squeak' link to the navigation bar on the left.
- The order of the links in the navigation bar makes no sense.
'Seaside' comes before 'Documentation'?!? Seaside is very cool, but it does not define Squeak, and probably shouldn't be in the navigation bar at all (just put it under 'Links'/'Hot Sites'/'Projects using Squeak').
- If the 'Hot Sites' list is moved from the front page, we need to
put more stuff to replace it. I suggest adapting the opening text from the 'About' link:
Squeak is an open, highly portable Smalltalk implementation with powerful multimedia facilities. Squeak is the vehicle of a wide range of projects, ranging from education platforms to commercial web application development and beyond. <'beyond' could link to 'Hot Sites' page> Squeak runs on a virtual machine that is written entirely in Smalltalk, making it easy to debug, analyze, change, and port to new platforms.
Squeak is available for free via the Internet. Each release includes complete source code, and has platform-independent support for color, sound, network access, and more. A more complete description of what Squeak is and what makes it uniquely powerful can be found here <'here' links to 'About' page>
- The 'Get the Squeak CD or the Squeak DVD distributions' line
might go in another green box under 'Download' on the right. After all, they are just other ways of getting Squeak.
- The 'Documentation' section should prominently list the Squeak
Swiki at Georgia Tech. SmallWiki documentation does not belong in the documentation section. Perhaps add a new link at the end of the navigation bar on the left ('This Website'?).
Josh,
Agreed on all counts. I just went in and made a number of these changes - I hope the website team doesn't mind, but if they do, hey, that's why it's a wiki...
I also did a little cleanup of English grammar and usage, but there's still more that could be done there. I don't mind doing another pass at that later.
The front page does feel a little short and empty now, though. We may want to have a "featured project" or something rather than just the list of "hot sites".
Avi
At 10:55 AM 7/3/2005 +0200, Stef wrote:
Thanks avi
I prefer this kind of positive feedback. Note that I'm not in the website team anymore (because I had no time) but thanks again for helping having a decent web site for Squeak.
May be having a separate website for developers would help? Stef
Well, I kinda look at this site as the "general" site. The education side already has squeakland.org, don't they? And the swiki is the best place for developers, even if it daunting to start with.
On Jul 2, 2005, at 9:26 AM, Avi Bryant wrote:
On Jul 2, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Josh Gargus wrote:
Josh,
Agreed on all counts. I just went in and made a number of these changes - I hope the website team doesn't mind, but if they do, hey, that's why it's a wiki...
I also did a little cleanup of English grammar and usage, but there's still more that could be done there. I don't mind doing another pass at that later.
The front page does feel a little short and empty now, though. We may want to have a "featured project" or something rather than just the list of "hot sites".
Avi
Thanks Avi! I noticed that it looked like a wiki, but I don't know how to get a login. Who do I ask for one, in case I feel the urge to make some changes in a few spare minutes?
Josh
Josh Gargus wrote:
On Jul 2, 2005, at 9:26 AM, Avi Bryant wrote:
On Jul 2, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Josh Gargus wrote:
Josh,
Agreed on all counts. I just went in and made a number of these changes - I hope the website team doesn't mind, but if they do, hey, that's why it's a wiki...
I also did a little cleanup of English grammar and usage, but there's still more that could be done there. I don't mind doing another pass at that later.
The front page does feel a little short and empty now, though. We may want to have a "featured project" or something rather than just the list of "hot sites".
Avi
Thanks Avi! I noticed that it looked like a wiki, but I don't know how to get a login. Who do I ask for one, in case I feel the urge to make some changes in a few spare minutes?
Jason Rogers (jacaetevha@gmail.com) is the team leader and I think he can pass out access. The website project mailing list is website@discuss.squeakfoundation.org Karl
karl wrote:
Josh Gargus wrote:
On Jul 2, 2005, at 9:26 AM, Avi Bryant wrote:
On Jul 2, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Josh Gargus wrote:
Josh,
Agreed on all counts. I just went in and made a number of these changes - I hope the website team doesn't mind, but if they do, hey, that's why it's a wiki...
I also did a little cleanup of English grammar and usage, but there's still more that could be done there. I don't mind doing another pass at that later.
The front page does feel a little short and empty now, though. We may want to have a "featured project" or something rather than just the list of "hot sites".
Avi
Thanks Avi! I noticed that it looked like a wiki, but I don't know how to get a login. Who do I ask for one, in case I feel the urge to make some changes in a few spare minutes?
Jason Rogers (jacaetevhaATgmailDOTcom) is the team leader and I think he can pass out access. The website project mailing list is website@discuss.squeakfoundation.org
Eeeeek, sorry sorry sorry for writing out the email in full. Could some one please please fix this in the email archive ? Karl
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