I am trying to install a SqueakSource Server on my home machine in order to try creating an email-based commit notifier. I have tried several combinations of 3.7 image, 3.8 image, and 3.9 images
Things I have tried: - Loading http://www.squeaksource.com/ss/SqueakSource-dt.1020.mcz into a full 3.7 or 3.8 image. This Installs fine, but does not run because DynamicBindings is missing. - After installing DynamicBindings from SqueakMap onto a 3.8 image, the server fails when a page is loaded with: MessageNotUnderstood: UndefinedObject>>title. I am not sure how to get a traceback. - I could not test on a 3.7 image, because I cannot load SqueakMap; It tries to update to 2.2, and fails. - Following the instructions on the wiki page for http://source.squeakfoundation.org/ss/ fails because I cannot use SqueakMap; same problem as above - Following the instructions at http://osdir.com/ml/lang.smalltalk.squeak.beginners/2006-12/msg00098.html on a squeak-dev-118 image works until I load the package http://www.squeaksource.com/ss/GraphViz-pmm.43.mcz , which fails with a syntax error on MacOSGraphVizGenerator>>runWithSystemFramework: - Trying on the recommended squeak-dev-62 image, Monticello fails with an error when reading the KomServices package: MessageNotUnderstood: UndefinedObject>>readStream. - I try downloading the packages manually, and the web server says that http://www.squeaksource.com/ss/XML-Parser-mir.3.mcz cannot be found.
So, I tried four methods of installing SqueakSource, and ran into 5 show-stoppers. How can one install SqueakSource?
It's a pitty that installing something like SqueakSource is so complicated... One of the problems seems to be that SqueakMap does not work in your 3.7 image (there have been various issues with SqueakMap IIRC). Anyway, if you follow the description on the Wiki page http:// source.squeakfoundation.org/ss.html I think you get around SqueakMap since all packages are in the repository of SqueakSource-SqF itself.
HTH, Adrian
On May 31, 2007, at 21:13 , Matthew Fulmer wrote:
I am trying to install a SqueakSource Server on my home machine in order to try creating an email-based commit notifier. I have tried several combinations of 3.7 image, 3.8 image, and 3.9 images
Things I have tried:
- Loading http://www.squeaksource.com/ss/SqueakSource-dt.1020.mcz into a full 3.7 or 3.8 image. This Installs fine, but does not run because DynamicBindings is missing.
- After installing DynamicBindings from SqueakMap onto a 3.8 image, the server fails when a page is loaded with: MessageNotUnderstood: UndefinedObject>>title. I am not sure how to get a traceback.
- I could not test on a 3.7 image, because I cannot load SqueakMap; It tries to update to 2.2, and fails.
- Following the instructions on the wiki page for http://source.squeakfoundation.org/ss/ fails because I cannot use SqueakMap; same problem as above
- Following the instructions at http://osdir.com/ml/lang.smalltalk.squeak.beginners/2006-12/
msg00098.html on a squeak-dev-118 image works until I load the package http://www.squeaksource.com/ss/GraphViz-pmm.43.mcz , which fails with a syntax error on MacOSGraphVizGenerator>>runWithSystemFramework:
- Trying on the recommended squeak-dev-62 image, Monticello fails with an error when reading the KomServices package: MessageNotUnderstood: UndefinedObject>>readStream.
- I try downloading the packages manually, and the web server says that http://www.squeaksource.com/ss/XML-Parser-mir.3.mcz cannot be found.
So, I tried four methods of installing SqueakSource, and ran into 5 show-stoppers. How can one install SqueakSource?
-- Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/ Help improve Squeak Documentation: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/808
Hi!
It's a pitty that installing something like SqueakSource is so complicated... One of the problems seems to be that SqueakMap does not work in your 3.7 image (there have been various issues with SqueakMap IIRC).
SqueakMap is currently 3.8+ only due to the WideString issue. I upgraded SqueakMap to 3.8 and then discovered that ImageSegments from 3.8 don't load in 3.7 or earlier due to the wide string stuff.
Sometime when someone take the time - we should move to another format of the map. But since I am the only one so far interested in developing SqueakMap (Brian has helped with the client though) AND I don't have time - it does not get done.
regards, Göran
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 09:37:14AM +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
It's a pitty that installing something like SqueakSource is so complicated... One of the problems seems to be that SqueakMap does not work in your 3.7 image (there have been various issues with SqueakMap IIRC). Anyway, if you follow the description on the Wiki page http:// source.squeakfoundation.org/ss.html I think you get around SqueakMap since all packages are in the repository of SqueakSource-SqF itself.
I tried this, but still ran into the SqueakMap show-stopper. 3.7 does not come with Monticello, and so must be loaded from SqueakMap. But SqueakMap does not work. I suppose I could try downloading the MCInstaller and Monticello packages from the SqueakMap web interface.
Matthew Fulmer wrote:
I tried this, but still ran into the SqueakMap show-stopper. 3.7 does not come with Monticello, and so must be loaded from SqueakMap. But SqueakMap does not work. I suppose I could try downloading the MCInstaller and Monticello packages from the SqueakMap web interface.
Last resort: download the mcz file, unzip it - it's just a zip file (rename it to .zip, if necessary), then filein the .st file.
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 08:36:58AM -0700, Matthew Fulmer wrote:
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 09:37:14AM +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
It's a pitty that installing something like SqueakSource is so complicated... One of the problems seems to be that SqueakMap does not work in your 3.7 image (there have been various issues with SqueakMap IIRC). Anyway, if you follow the description on the Wiki page http:// source.squeakfoundation.org/ss.html I think you get around SqueakMap since all packages are in the repository of SqueakSource-SqF itself.
I tried this, but still ran into the SqueakMap show-stopper. 3.7 does not come with Monticello, and so must be loaded from SqueakMap. But SqueakMap does not work. I suppose I could try downloading the MCInstaller and Monticello packages from the SqueakMap web interface.
I tried doing this, and I got further than before. I downloaded http://www.wiresong.ca/static/releases/MCInstaller.11.st from SqueakMap, and all the packages in http://source.squeakfoundation.org/ss/ . Then I opened up a 3.7-5989 image, filed in MCInstaller, then proceeded installing the MC snapshots in the order specified on the wiki page at http://source.squeakfoundation.org/ss.html . When installing KomHttpServer-gk.6.mcz, I get a warning that missing older dependency KomServices-gk.1.mcz cannot be found. Ignoring it, I continue on. I install Seaside2-avi.86.mcz and enter a username and password. When I install SqueakSource-dew.152.mcz, the image halts at 100% CPU at about 7/8 of the way through loading. Alt-. has no effect.
Taking heed of the warning, I try downloading KomServices-gk.1.mcz from SqueakMap, and using it in place of KomServices-gk.2.mcz. This time, there is no warning when loading KomHttpServer-gw.6.mcz, but loading SqueakSource-dew.152.mcz still freezes the image at the same point.
8 show-stoppers and counting :-/
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:13:45PM -0700, Matthew Fulmer wrote:
I am trying to install a SqueakSource Server on my home machine in order to try creating an email-based commit notifier. I have tried several combinations of 3.7 image, 3.8 image, and 3.9 images
Thanks to Ken Causey's help on IRC, I got it working.
Great. Could you add a description of how you installed SqueakSource to http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5766? This would certainly be helpful for other people installing SqueakSource in the future. Thanks.
Adrian
On Jun 3, 2007, at 06:55 , Matthew Fulmer wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:13:45PM -0700, Matthew Fulmer wrote:
I am trying to install a SqueakSource Server on my home machine in order to try creating an email-based commit notifier. I have tried several combinations of 3.7 image, 3.8 image, and 3.9 images
Thanks to Ken Causey's help on IRC, I got it working.
-- Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/ Help improve Squeak Documentation: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/808
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 10:48:48AM +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Great. Could you add a description of how you installed SqueakSource to http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5766? This would certainly be helpful for other people installing SqueakSource in the future. Thanks.
Done.
Adrian
On Jun 3, 2007, at 06:55 , Matthew Fulmer wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:13:45PM -0700, Matthew Fulmer wrote:
I am trying to install a SqueakSource Server on my home machine in order to try creating an email-based commit notifier. I have tried several combinations of 3.7 image, 3.8 image, and 3.9 images
Thanks to Ken Causey's help on IRC, I got it working.
-- Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/ Help improve Squeak Documentation: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/808
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