For those of you in different time zones who have an interest..
The "More Direct Morphic" talk starts a bit after 18 minutes in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqWuUpXzQt8
Enjoy, -KenD
Thanks Ken,
thank you for sharing.
That's a lot like I'm working. I am a bit too impatient for the loading times (assuming you presented on a 'normal' computer and me often using a Pi down to A+) but I still can save images so I think that would be ok. What about Projects and Flaps, can they be added to Cuis?
Cheers,
Herbert
Am 15.05.2021 um 21:48 schrieb ken.dickey@whidbey.com:
For those of you in different time zones who have an interest..
The "More Direct Morphic" talk starts a bit after 18 minutes in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqWuUpXzQt8
Enjoy, -KenD
On 2021-05-16, at 5:38 AM, Herbert König herbertkoenig@gmx.net wrote:
What about Projects and Flaps, can they be added to Cuis?
I'm actually surprised to see that someone uses these any more; is this still a popular thing? I'd be very happy to see them go away in most respects. I suppose Projects could be argued to have some utility for the 'rescue project' but I don't think I've seen anyone use Flaps in decades.
tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Engineers work to a couple of decimal places; Physicists work to an order of magnitude; Astrophysicists work to an order of magnitude in the exponent
Am 16.05.2021 um 20:13 schrieb tim Rowledge:
On 2021-05-16, at 5:38 AM, Herbert König herbertkoenig@gmx.net wrote:
What about Projects and Flaps, can they be added to Cuis?
I'm actually surprised to see that someone uses these any more; is this still a popular thing? I'd be very happy to see them go away in most respects. I suppose Projects could be argued to have some utility for the 'rescue project' but I don't think I've seen anyone use Flaps in decades.
Hi Tim,
not sure about popularity and as you see I'm happy to use older versions. And I do little coding in Squeak nowadays. It's still a great tool for thought though.
Actually the below is for discussing some electronics with a customer. He (non technical person) can use it because each project has a button 'Back to overview'. I have more complex stuff. :-) These are quickly built and I hoped that 'More Direct Morpic' even might make it quicker. (It would with projects and flaps to move stuff between projects.)
Any alternatives in Squeak I am missing?
Cheers,
Herbert
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Engineers work to a couple of decimal places; Physicists work to an order of magnitude; Astrophysicists work to an order of magnitude in the exponent
On 2021-05-16, at 11:57 AM, Herbert König herbertkoenig@gmx.net wrote: Actually the below is for discussing some electronics with a customer. He (non technical person) can use it because each project has a button 'Back to overview'. I have more complex stuff. :-) These are quickly built and I hoped that 'More Direct Morpic' even might make it quicker. (It would with projects and flaps to move stuff between projects.)
Any alternatives in Squeak I am missing?
Cheers,
Herbert <bidfmhdkapdbjffg.png>
Interesting use of Projects. You linked them up visually with Connectors, right?
And your signature generator had the right choice again :-))
I sometimes worry about whether it has become sentient. And what does that mean when I reboot the Mac? See also the season 2 first episode of 'Love Death and Robots'
tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Strange OpCodes: RLBM: Ruin Logic Board Multiple
Interesting use of Projects. You linked them up visually with Connectors, right?
nope, just Arrows from the Object tool. Usually with visible handles. Always as simple as possible.
I know you are doing beautiful things. For me it's about brainstorming. Costs, UI (physical buttons and sliders for the electronics, mouse miles for GUIs Implement elsewhere), sometimes keep together stuff I learned.
Cheers,
Herbert
And your signature generator had the right choice again :-))
I sometimes worry about whether it has become sentient. And what does that mean when I reboot the Mac? See also the season 2 first episode of 'Love Death and Robots'
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Strange OpCodes: RLBM: Ruin Logic Board Multiple
And your signature generator had the right choice again :-))
Herbert
Am 16.05.2021 um 20:13 schrieb tim Rowledge:
On 2021-05-16, at 5:38 AM, Herbert König herbertkoenig@gmx.net wrote:
What about Projects and Flaps, can they be added to Cuis?
I'm actually surprised to see that someone uses these any more; is this still a popular thing? I'd be very happy to see them go away in most respects. I suppose Projects could be argued to have some utility for the 'rescue project' but I don't think I've seen anyone use Flaps in decades.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Engineers work to a couple of decimal places; Physicists work to an order of magnitude; Astrophysicists work to an order of magnitude in the exponent
I use flaps! Specifically, in my experimentation with squeak-on-a-cellphone, I put the on screen keyboard in a flap, and open the flap automatically whenever keyboard focus switches to something non-nil:
newKeyboardFocus: aMorphOrNil aMorphOrNil ifNil: [OnScreenKeyboardMorph hideFlap] ifNotNil: [(OnScreenKeyboardMorph future: 200) raiseFlap]. ^ super newKeyboardFocus: aMorphOrNil.
It works surprisingly well for this. Being able to adjust the height of the keyboard by moving the flap, etc.
Cheers, Tony
On 5/16/21 8:13 PM, tim Rowledge wrote:
On 2021-05-16, at 5:38 AM, Herbert König herbertkoenig@gmx.net wrote:
What about Projects and Flaps, can they be added to Cuis?
I'm actually surprised to see that someone uses these any more; is this still a popular thing? I'd be very happy to see them go away in most respects. I suppose Projects could be argued to have some utility for the 'rescue project' but I don't think I've seen anyone use Flaps in decades.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Engineers work to a couple of decimal places; Physicists work to an order of magnitude; Astrophysicists work to an order of magnitude in the exponent
I like flaps. :-) But I don't use them.
Best, Marcel Am 17.05.2021 09:15:42 schrieb Tony Garnock-Jones tonyg@leastfixedpoint.com: I use flaps! Specifically, in my experimentation with squeak-on-a-cellphone, I put the on screen keyboard in a flap, and open the flap automatically whenever keyboard focus switches to something non-nil:
newKeyboardFocus: aMorphOrNil aMorphOrNil ifNil: [OnScreenKeyboardMorph hideFlap] ifNotNil: [(OnScreenKeyboardMorph future: 200) raiseFlap]. ^ super newKeyboardFocus: aMorphOrNil.
It works surprisingly well for this. Being able to adjust the height of the keyboard by moving the flap, etc.
Cheers, Tony
On 5/16/21 8:13 PM, tim Rowledge wrote:
On 2021-05-16, at 5:38 AM, Herbert König wrote:
What about Projects and Flaps, can they be added to Cuis?
I'm actually surprised to see that someone uses these any more; is this still a popular thing? I'd be very happy to see them go away in most respects. I suppose Projects could be argued to have some utility for the 'rescue project' but I don't think I've seen anyone use Flaps in decades.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Engineers work to a couple of decimal places; Physicists work to an order of magnitude; Astrophysicists work to an order of magnitude in the exponent
I also use flaps to move windows between projects (in particular to parent projects), and to stash away windows related to a topic that I will continue later, to declutter my screen. Most of the time I don't know in advance that I will want a separate project for all those windows when I start digging into something. Otherwise I use projects as the multiple desktops substitute, or as the task-focused interface as Eclipse Mylyn would call it...
But I usually do not use the contents of the flaps that come preinstalled.
Am Mo., 17. Mai 2021 um 13:01 Uhr schrieb Marcel Taeumel marcel.taeumel@hpi.de:
I like flaps. :-) But I don't use them.
Best, Marcel
Am 17.05.2021 09:15:42 schrieb Tony Garnock-Jones tonyg@leastfixedpoint.com:
I use flaps! Specifically, in my experimentation with squeak-on-a-cellphone, I put the on screen keyboard in a flap, and open the flap automatically whenever keyboard focus switches to something non-nil:
newKeyboardFocus: aMorphOrNil aMorphOrNil ifNil: [OnScreenKeyboardMorph hideFlap] ifNotNil: [(OnScreenKeyboardMorph future: 200) raiseFlap]. ^ super newKeyboardFocus: aMorphOrNil.
It works surprisingly well for this. Being able to adjust the height of the keyboard by moving the flap, etc.
Cheers, Tony
On 5/16/21 8:13 PM, tim Rowledge wrote:
On 2021-05-16, at 5:38 AM, Herbert König wrote:
What about Projects and Flaps, can they be added to Cuis?
I'm actually surprised to see that someone uses these any more; is this still a popular thing? I'd be very happy to see them go away in most respects. I suppose Projects could be argued to have some utility for the 'rescue project' but I don't think I've seen anyone use Flaps in decades.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Engineers work to a couple of decimal places; Physicists work to an order of magnitude; Astrophysicists work to an order of magnitude in the exponent
What about Projects and Flaps, can they be added to Cuis?
I'm actually surprised to see that someone uses these any more; is this still a popular thing? I'd be very happy to see them go away in most respects. I suppose Projects could be argued to have some utility for the 'rescue project' but I don't think I've seen anyone use Flaps in decades.
I do use both.
Stef
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