I find it very ironic that none of the Windows users I know actually do use "windows". All their applications run in the "maximized" mode and they switch between them using the buttons on the bar at the bottom of the screen.
Anyway, if anyone is interested in why I think windows were a good idea I have a non published paper from 1991 at:
http://www.lsi.usp.br/~jecel/jpaper8.html
-- Jecel
jecel@lsi.usp.br wrote:
I find it very ironic that none of the Windows users I know actually do use "windows". All their applications run in the "maximized" mode and they switch between them using the buttons on the bar at the bottom of the screen.
Hey, I represent that remark! :-b
Most Windows applications take up so much screen space with all the toolbars, horizontal and vertical scrollbars, status bars, menu bar, etc that you must maximize the window just to have any space to see what you opened the app for in the first place -- one reason I actually like the Squeak flopout scrollbars and the lack of all the usual gadgetry. A 1280x1024 19" screen seems to be the point at which I finally stop maximizing things all the time under Windows.
-- Dwight
Most Windows applications take up so much screen space...
And then they bring up a fixed size dialog box that appears designed for a small Windows CE screen! (Oh but they add a scroll bar!)
If you have a lot of real estate, use it all with the most pertinent information. Most of the time this will be text and not graphics. In Emacs, all kinds of text is "clickable" (actionable?)
[...]
you must maximize the window just to have any space to see what you opened the app for in the first place -- one reason I actually like the Squeak flopout scrollbars and the lack of all the usual gadgetry.
Definitely. Window decoration is there to be removed. I really dislike apps where you can *only* do something from a toolbar --- not only do I have to swap to the mouse, but it's taking up pixels I want to use for another job.
A 1280x1024 19" screen seems to be the point at which I finally stop maximizing things all the time under Windows.
Ah, my home box :-). The only thing that stays maximised on there is Squeak --- and I'd still love to see multiple 'screens' in Squeak so that I could intermingle Squeak windows with my native OS windows.
- Peter
Does anyone want to convert Squeak into Self, or at least simulate Self on Squeak?
simulate Self on Squeak
Isn't that what Morphic in squeak is [all ]about ? -Russ ----- Original Message ----- From: shaping@bigfoot.com To: squeak@cs.uiuc.edu Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 7:16 PM Subject: Squeak and Self
Does anyone want to convert Squeak into Self, or at least simulate Self on Squeak?
----- Original Message ----- From: Russ Van Rooy russvr@blarg.net To: shaping@bigfoot.com; squeak@cs.uiuc.edu Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 12:43 AM Subject: Re: Squeak and Self
simulate Self on Squeak
Isn't that what Morphic in squeak is [all ]about ?
Only superficially. I'm referring to a simulation/study of Self with a view to implementing it more efficiently in a VM.
-Russ ----- Original Message ----- From: shaping@bigfoot.com To: squeak@cs.uiuc.edu Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 7:16 PM Subject: Squeak and Self
Does anyone want to convert Squeak into Self, or at least simulate Self
on
Squeak?
jecel@lsi.usp.br wrote:
I find it very ironic that none of the Windows users I know actually do use "windows". All their applications run in the "maximized" mode and they switch between them using the buttons on the bar at the bottom of the screen.
Not me. I think this has to do with available screen resolution. I had all programs maximized on 640x480, and most on 800x600, but with 1024x768 and up I do not maximized very much anymore.
Regards, Joachim
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