SqueakNOS April 2009

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Out-of-date links and small rewrite
by Derek Peschel 04 May '09

04 May '09

Some minor housekeeping would make the SqueakNOS pages much more friendly for the casual browser. 1. This URL: http://people.squeakfoundation.org/proj/SqueakNOS/ is now bad. Can someone suggest a replacement? Then I can update the Wiki which points to it, but not the squeaksource.com pages. 2. This URL: http://people.squeakfoundation.org/person/gera/ is also bad. Gera, any ideas? The Wiki points to this too. 3. On these pages: http://www.squeaksource.com/@GNJajakL4a4kH8PK/Hdr9024c http://www.squeaksource.com/SqueakNOS/ the links to the Squeak Wiki need to be changed (minnow.cc.gatech.edu became wiki.squeak.org). 4. On SqueakNOS's Wiki page, is the sentence "We've put up a mailing list to talk SqueakNOS, join in, or just drop an email there." really two sentences run together, or something else I misunderstood? The second sentence "Join in, or just drop an email there." is not true since you _can't_ post without subscribing. I'm happy to slightly rewrite the text unless someone has other ideas or objections. -- Derek

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Re: [squeak-dev] where's the content from people.squeakfounda tion.org?
by Karl Ramberg 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

Ken, as always you are a champ :-) Karl On 2009-04-08 20:57, Ken Causey wrote: > Separately I have emailed Gerardo the content from his personal account > and the SqueakNOS project on SqP. > > Ken > > >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: RE: [squeak-dev] where's the content from people.squeakfounda >> tion.org? >> From: "Ken Causey"<ken(a)kencausey.com> >> Date: Wed, April 08, 2009 1:16 pm >> To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" >> <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> >> >> >> We haven't lost anything other than direct access to the content. I >> have copies of all of the content and software, it simply isn't readily >> available over the web. If you can explain what you want clearly I can >> get it to you in some form (probably html embedded in xml). >> >> Ken >> >> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: [squeak-dev] where's the content from >>> people.squeakfoundation.org? >>> From: Gerardo Richarte<gera(a)corest.com> >>> Date: Wed, April 08, 2009 9:51 am >>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list >>> <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> >>> >>> >>> Ni! >>> >>> please don't tell me we've lost it, and please tell me the truth... >>> In the case of incoherency I prefer the truth. >>> >>> I don't think I have backups of everything I wrote (I rather think I >>> don't have), >>> I remember discussing about it last year, but I don't remember a conclusion, >>> although it's obvious there was some discussion... >>> >>> Well, yes, web.archive.org will help in recovering, but I already >>> checked, and although it's not working properly now (the archive) I >>> already realized not everything is there :-( >>> >>> please! show me the light! >>> gera >>> > > >

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Porting and debugging SqueakNOS vs. other OSs
by Derek Peschel 07 Apr '09

07 Apr '09

Hi everybody, Karl Romberg from squeak-dev mentioned SqueakNOS in response to my questions about Squeak on the bare metal and about self-virtualization. Has anyone here worked on SqueakNOS and the kernel of a more conventional OS? I'm curious whether SqueakNOS's structure makes it easier or harder to port than other OSs. From your description of USB problems I guess the lack of documentation and tools are problems for you, as they seem to be for other OSs. What about debugging SqueakNOS with VMware or something similar? Has any- one tried, and is SqueakNOS's architecture easier or harder to debug than other OSs? The VM interprets bytecodes, which creates one of the classic barriers to easy debugging, but perhaps the VM is also simpler than other OS kernels. Thanks, -- Derek

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