Dean_Swan at Mitel.COM wrote:

>
> >On the winXP side, I don't think PIV's are "portable". Pentium-M and 
> PIII
> >machines have loger battery life. And the performance is closer to 
> that of
> >G4 powerbooks, because there are no G5 powerbooks.
>
> You know, I don't know why Apple and the PowerPC are STILL so wrongly 
> characterized.  I have a Dell P4/3.0GHz with 1GB RAM running XP Pro 
> SP2 at work (the machine I am using at the moment), and my current 
> personal machine is an iBook G4 1.2 GHz with 768M RAM running 10.4.2.
>
> On the Dell:
>
>         0 tinyBenchmarks.
>
>        '121904761 bytecodes/sec; 6356316 sends/sec'
>         '120754716 bytecodes/sec; 6339168 sends/sec'
>         '120868744 bytecodes/sec; 6350590 sends/sec'
>
>
> On the iBook:
>
>         0 tinyBenchmarks.
>
>        '92552422 bytecodes/sec; 4149159 sends/sec'
>         '92820884 bytecodes/sec; 4161047 sends/sec'
>         '92418772 bytecodes/sec; 4121681 sends/sec'
>
> So, let's see, the G4 is clocked at 0.4 * the P4, and yet the iBook 
> benchmarks at > 0.65 times the P4 based on sends and up to 0.75 times 
> the P4 based on bytecodes.  This was using the same Squeak 3.7 image 
> on both machines.  I know this is far from a rigorous benchmark, but 
> it is reflective of my general experience.
>
> In general, my 1.2GHz G4 iBook feels every bit as fast as my 3.0 GHz 
> P4 desktop, so I don't see where people are saying that the Mac will 
> be faster on Intel, and that Pentium is so much faster than PowerPC. 
>  Based on my experience, the G4 iBook outperforms any Pentium latptop 
> and costs at least $200 less than an "equivalent" Wintel laptop.
>
> Where is everybody getting their "information" from?
>
> Oh, and battery life - I regularly get over 5 hours out of the iBook.
>
> To the original poster, if you get to pick the machine that your 
> employer is providing, for Squeak, I would recommend the Powerbook. 
>  In fact, unless there is some software that is Windows only, I would 
> still recommend the Powerbook.  If you care about numerical 
> performance, Altivec on a G4 is going to beat a Pentium most of the 
> time, not even considering the G5.
>
> Ok, I don't want to fuel a Win vs. Mac fire here, but my opinion is 
> that the Powerbook is a much better computer than any Win laptop.  I 
> voted with my dollars in January when my Sony P3 laptop became too 
> unreliable to depend on anymore (after 4 years).

I'll add one more question to the fire:
Anyone using a laptop and Linux to run Squeak? If so, are you happy? 
What would you change?

brad
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