[UI] Re: Fwd: Workspace backgrounds - almost there

Mon Oct 1 12:06:43 UTC 2007

The corner handles are inconvenient also when I do #renderOn: a SVG+xhtml  
canvas. Sometimes they seem to be one off (hard to predict/reproduce) and  
the implementation (rescue the old bits...) is/does, hrm, does not give  
you a good time when *not* rendering on a graphics card.

I have no suggestion for what/how to do better with them, just my CHF 0.05.

On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:26:33 +0200, Gary Chambers wrote:

> I could make the title button order available as a preference... For now
> you'd need to subclass the UIThemeSoftSqueak and override
> #configureWindowLabelAreaFor: with the version for Vistary.
> Your new theme subclass will appear in the preferences (you should also
> override #themeName on the class side).
>
> As for the legibility of button text with Vistary, I find it alright when
> using a FreeType font...
>
> As for corner handles, they were a bugger to fix to work properly! I'd
> prefer the old border/side behaviour with no handles as such. I could  
> make
> this an option if there's sufficient interest.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> [mailto:ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of
>> Bill Schwab
>> Sent: 29 September 2007 3:23 pm
>> To: ui at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> Subject: Re: [UI] Fwd: Workspace backgrounds - almost there
>>
>>
>> I knew I missed a question in my global reply - the corner handles.
>> They do not particularly bother me (I almost like them
>> actually), but if they go away, I won't scream about it.  Now
>> that you mention it, you're right, they are ugly ;)
>>
>> Gary, something I just noticed is that the soft squeak theme
>> leaves the [x] button on the left of the title bar.  I
>> _think_ I would move it to he right.  That said, I gladly
>> defer to you judgement.  BTW, I continue to be impressed with
>> your work.  For reasons unknown, I switched back to the
>> Vistary theme and noted that you obviously can move the close
>> button; at first, I assumed you simply didn't mess with the
>> locations.
>> I would use the Vistary theme, but I find the buttons
>> difficult to read due to the lens effect, or more to the
>> point, its location.  Of course, that is largely a result of
>> what you set out to emulate.  I can envision writing a hybrid
>> theme that has lens effects near rectangle bounds, but that can wait.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
>> University of Florida
>> Department of Anesthesiology
>> PO Box 100254
>> Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
>>
>> Email: bschwab at anest.ufl.edu
>> Tel: (352) 846-1285
>> FAX: (352) 392-7029
>>
>> >>> asqueaker at gmail.com 09/27/07 10:10 PM >>>
>> Looks real good Bill!  I especially like highlighting the
>> items in Lists the same as text highlighted in a text pane; a
>> big improvement over the red-on-gray list selections of past.
>>
>> Do you have a mind to ditch the corner handles?  Aren't they
>> ugly? Not to mention redundant with the changing of the
>> mouse-pointer.  I've also noticed (in 3.9 images) they creep
>> out of their bounds under certain circumstances like too
>> small a window-title font, or maybe square window corners too..
>>
>>
>> On 9/27/07, Bill Schwab <BSchwab at anest.ufl.edu> wrote:
>> > This should do it:
>> >
>> >  http://needle.anest.ufl.edu/users/wschwab/UI-almost.png
>> >
>> > Bill
>> >
>> >
>> > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
>> > University of Florida
>> > Department of Anesthesiology
>> > PO Box 100254
>> > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
>> >
>> > Email: bschwab at anest.ufl.edu
>> > Tel: (352) 846-1285
>> > FAX: (352) 392-7029
>> >
>> >
>> > >>> Bill Schwab 9/25/2007 11:16:34 PM >>>
>> > I did some fiddling to try to reproduce the installation problems I
>> > had, added a reminder about the Damien's dev image to the UI swiki
>> page,
>> > downloaded it, and did an installation of Gary's widgets using
>> > Monitcello.  Then I moved my BibTeX helper code into the
>> new image.  I
>> > appear to have made a happy mistake in the latter,
>> capturing a change
>> > that I considered redundant, and ended up with more or less
>> the visual
>> > changes I was trying to create, and grabbed a screenshot
>> before I had
>> > time to break it :)
>> >
>> > I will probably send it to Gary as a start.  What is the
>> proper way to
>> > make it available?  I suppose the easiest thing is to put
>> it on my web
>> > page, but I have not yet learned how to use Linux to remotely access
>> our
>> > servers, so I can't do that right now.
>> >
>> > When it becomes available, you will notice the background
>> color of the
>> > browser's and debugger's code pane.  I would hope for the
>> debugger's
>> > inspector panes to be so colored also, though they
>> currently show it
>> > only for the top line.  Ironically, the workspace in the
>> image is not
>> > correctly colored, though a newly-created instance has the correct
>> > color, though, as in the debugger's inspectors, it shows the color
>> only
>> > to a point, after which the default white takes over.
>> >
>> > Again, this is not a super big deal, but I find that
>> similar changes
>> > that OA made to Dolphin long ago grew on me.
>> >
>> > Bill
>> >
>> >
>> >
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