Squeak-dev June 2009

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The life ot Steve Jobs (so far...) Take a look at slide 29. It was 1989. Exactly 10 years ago.
by Casimiro de Almeida Barreto 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

It may interest some: http://gizmodo.com/5301470/the-life-of-steve-jobs-+-so-far/gallery/?skyline… Just take a look at slide 29. Exactly 20 years ago. That's something to think about.

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[ANN] Submit your software to the ESUG Awards!
by Noury Bouraqadi 29 Jun '09

29 Jun '09

Dear Smalltalkers, The dead-line for the ESUG Innovation Technology Awards is in two days. So, it's time to submit your Smalltalk related software. The submission process is easy. All needed is short PDF document (up to 4 pages) providing the software info (name, developers, affiliation/ country, Smalltalk dialect, URL, keywords, licence) some screenshots and a description of the software. You can find the history of the ESUG Awards and ranking back to its 1st edition in 2004 in this page http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/noury/24 More information for this year edition on-line http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2009/Innovation+Technology+Awards See you in Brest, Noury ESUG Treasurer http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/noury/ -------------- -ESUG 17th International Smalltalk Conference - Brest, France, August 31 - September 4, 2009 http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2009

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Amazing stuff (Was: Re: [squeak-dev] The future of Squeak & Pharo (was Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo MIT license clean))
by Igor Stasenko 29 Jun '09

29 Jun '09

Stéphane , i found some amazing stuff for you in Squeak. Look for senders of: #isKindOf:orOf: and if you not yet fully amazed , then look at senders of #ownerThatIsA: Amazing! 2009/6/29 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com>: > 2009/6/29 Stéphane Rollandin <lecteur(a)zogotounga.net>: >>>>> - Not backward compatible >>> >>> because, unfortunately, it is a main obstacle for moving forward. >>> Or maybe not? Maybe we should start making amazing stuff right now? >> >> I am doing amazing stuff with Squeak right now. I have been doing so for >> years. >> > > Then we're putting different meaning in an 'amazing' word. > I can do amazing stuff, but its often requires hacks, workarounds and > other different gotchas, > which i hate to put into my code. And after all of that, fairly, i > can't call it amazing anymore. Can you? > >> Now that Pharo provides the non-backward compatible way, which is fine, I >> don't understand why the question arises for Squeak once again. Pharo is the >> solution, isn't it ? (and I mean it). >> > > You may feel content about code, which rots there for years, and > no-one even cares rewriting/optimizing/making it better. > But i don't. I don't like sitting on the gas canister and hoping that > next spark will not blow it up. > >> Stef >> > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

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'todo' list for CurlPlugin
by danil osipchuk 29 Jun '09

29 Jun '09

Hello everybody I'm going to update CurlPlugin (finally). Currently I have a TODO list which looks like this (in parenthesis those who are interested): 1) Wrap it into installer similar to the FreeType plugin (every user) 2) Make it clear how to build the plugin to allow its (relatevely) easy extension (Steven W Riggins, Jan van de Sandt, me) 3) Add Delete, Head, Add/modify HTTP-headers (Steven W Riggins) 4) Make using of cookies straight (Simon Kirk, Bill Schwab) If somebody has other requests please let me know. I would appreciate a lot if somebody suggests me simple use cases for testing 3 и 4. My guess is that it may be some public service which reques use of them? For those who wants to try the process to build plugin will be documented here (windows only at the moment): http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6138 regards, Danil

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Re: [squeak-dev] blog post about proposals for new wiki
by Bernhard Pieber 28 Jun '09

28 Jun '09

I wanted to let you know that I added a comment to your blog posting. Generally, I would prefer if all discussions would happen here on the squeak-dev list. However, that disussion was already going on there, and having half of the discussion there and half here is even worse. ;-) Cheers, Bernhard Am 17.06.2009 um 21:19 schrieb Jecel Assumpcao Jr: >> http://squeakboard.wordpress.com/2009/06/13/garbage-collecting-the-wiki/ > > Please feel free to leave your comments there or to have a discussion > here about the best way to deal with the issues we have with our > current > wiki. > > -- Jecel > >

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Link from squeak.org to squeakboard.wordpress.com
by Bernhard Pieber 28 Jun '09

28 Jun '09

I just tried to find the link to the board's new blog from the Squeak web site and did not find any. Could someone please add it? Or can ordinary people like me fix this ourselves? If yes, how? Username and password of the Squeak wiki don't work. Cheers, Bernhard

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Squeak Oversight Board Meeting Report for 6/3/2009
by Ken Causey 28 Jun '09

28 Jun '09

Please read the report of our latest meeting at http://squeakboard.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/meeting-report-for-632009/ Thanks Ken

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[Masters of Squeak] Have fun figuring this out
by Bert Freudenberg 27 Jun '09

27 Jun '09

If you evaluate the following two statements together 10 + 11 + 12 + 13 + 14 + 15 + 16+17+18+19+20+21+22+23+24+25+26+27+28+29+30+31+32+33+34+35+36+37+38+39. [:a :b :c | self halt] value: 0 value: 0 value: 0. you are dropped into an emergency evaluator (in a non-closure image anyway). Evaluating each statement individually is no problem. If you have fun figuring out puzzling behavior or want to prove your Squeak Skillz you might try to investigate it. If you need hints, scroll down to (*). For the rest, a fix and explanation is on Mantis: http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7355 - Bert - (*) These lines 10 + 11 + 12 + 13 + 14 + 15 + 16 + 17+18+19+20+21+22+23+24+25+26+27+28+29+30+31+32+33+34+35+36+37+38+39+40. [:a :b :c | ] decompile let you debug the issue. Full explanation below (**) (**) The decompiler fails because the #blockCopy: argument is the 33rd literal and hence uses an extended byte code to push. This is not anticipated by the decompiler which assumes a single-byte instruction is used to push the argument. And if this explanation does not make sense to you ... you've got a lot to learn about the inner workings of Squeak ;)

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Squeak Oversight Board Meeting Report for June 17, 2009
by Ken Causey 27 Jun '09

27 Jun '09

Please see http://squeakboard.wordpress.com/2009/06/18/meeting-report-for-6172009/ Thanks, Ken

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Fwd: [Seaside] [Ann] Meteoroid, a MVC framework for the web using Comet
by Andrey Larionov 27 Jun '09

27 Jun '09

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: santiago robles <santiagorobles(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 19:19 Subject: Re: [Seaside] [Ann] Meteoroid, a MVC framework for the web using Comet To: Seaside - general discussion <seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> Hello, we are working on a new version of Meteoroid which includes more tests, more fancy examples and some bug fixes. Besides that, I am working on a port to Squeak/Pharo. Currently, it works on Seaside2.8 with Swazoo2.1, but there are some problems to fix yet. I am doing it in my free time so I will finish it in a few weeks, but any help is more than welcome. Taking advantage this mail, I have some questions that can help me to do it quicker. 1)I am interested on making the port to the same versions of Swazoo (version 2.2) and Seaside (version 2.8), that are the same versions that we use in the Meteoroid VW version. Is there any Seaside-Adapters-Swazoo for Swazoo2.2 and Seaside2.8? because I couldn't find it, the ones I found were for Seaside2.9 and Swazoo2.2. 2)Anyone knows if is there any ValueModel port for Squeak or Pharo? I hope my answer fill your expectations. Santiago Robles 2009/6/25 Sungjin Chun <chunsj(a)embian.com> > > Me too. :-) > > On Jun 25, 2009, at 8:12 AM, Andrey Larionov wrote: > >> Can you export sources from STORE and put in some place for interested >> in porting parties? >> Thanks. >> >> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 17:09, santiago robles<santiagorobles(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> Thanks for your answers. I am one of the people who made Meteoroid. >>> Yes, it is for VisualWorks only. For the moment, we are not going to make a >>> port to Squeak, because we are focussed on adding a layer which will bind >>> ValueModels and HTML widgets to abstract more the idea of Comet. >>> Maybe, if we finish this layer quickly we will make a port to Squeak/Pharo + >>> Swazoo. We can also help others to port it into Squeak if somebody is >>> interested. We think that port it to Squeak/Pharo + Swazoo will not be very >>> difficult, except for the Announcement part because we have to select an >>> Announcement implementation for Squeak/Pharo (and we do not know which is >>> "the right one"). >>> Cheers, >>> Santiago Robles >>> >>> 2009/5/21 "S.J.Chun" <chunsj(a)embian.com> >>>> >>>> Only for VW? not for squeaak, right? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> seaside mailing list >>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> seaside mailing list >>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> seaside mailing list >> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside

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