Stephane, There's a book of Eric Hobsbawm called "Bandits" (especially the updated Revised Edition) that you, or anyone interested in the topic, will enjoy to read. There's even a free french translation on-line here : http://www.editions-zones.fr/spip.php?page=lyberplayer&id_article=79
Hernán
2009/2/4 stephane ducasse stephane.ducasse@free.fr
I should say that I do not understand vandalism in general. I'm estonished by bad energy people can have. On our kids wiki in 1998 we got really stupid and ugly picture posted and I never understood so we just blocked the pages (but there were not smalltalkers I imagine).
Stef
On Feb 1, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Alejandro F. Reimondo wrote:
Hi Stef and Squeakers,
Stef said:
It was clear that was not a Squeaker that wrote this shit.
Do you know or made any investigation about ideas related with been a Squeaker that serve to moredate/orientate/control the personality of a Squeaker? (e.g. my swiki have been violated many times by people that I know has knowledge about Squeak, no deep knowledge I must say, but approx. one year of "been a Squeaker" or so)
In the past I made studies trying to find a relation or pattern in common between smalltalkers and I found more evidence of bad attitudes than good attitudes in practice (under human pov). It was frustrating for me at that time, but it did not stop me. I invested more efforts trying to understand a relation between the smalltalk architecture/design/formula and how it affects persons and how they evaluate the results of their actions (in reality, not in the systems they build with smalltalk).
I think that Stef have not had the intention to promote a dialog about this topic, but it is something I am interested in, as a way to understand the changes in Smalltalk related communities in the last decade and the points of interest promoted by referents today.
cheers, Ale.
----- Original Message ----- From: "stephane ducasse" < stephane.ducasse@free.fr> To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" < squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Apology for offensive spam on annoncements list
Hi ken
It was clear that was not a Squeaker that wrote this shit. Don't worry.
Stef
On Jan 25, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Ken Causey wrote:
I apologize for this coming through on the announcements mailing list.
I hope everyone realizes that I did not send this. Several copies were received purportedly 'from' various community members. With the announcements list I have had a policy of moderating all messages, even those from subscribers. But in the last year or so I had begun to relaxen this somewhat by whitelisting anyone who sent messages regularly, this included myself. Clearly this was a mistake and I will now remove myself and everyone else from the whitelist and I will have to go back to moderating every single message.
Again, my apologies,
Ken Causey
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