[squeak-dev] a little more due process

keith keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk
Tue Feb 16 19:55:55 UTC 2010


>
>> Recently an op got irritated enough with keithy to ban him from the  
>> #squeak IRC channel, without much warning or community discussion.  
>> Unfortunately I believe such a unilateral ban creates "bad karma"  
>> that damages #squeak and Squeak in non-obvious ways.
>>
>> There are less harmful alternatives (eg: a more deliberate ban;  
>> training ourselves not to feed rants; or just accepting that  
>> #squeak may become unusable for an hour or two now and then). So, I  
>> feel this particular ban should end or at least be ratified by  
>> discussion/vote here on the list.
>
> I agree with you, and feel the ban was totally unjustified and  
> unwarranted. This banner in my opinion should immediately have his  
> banning capabilities removed, he obviously cannot be trusted with  
> the powers.
>
> Ken G. Brown
>

Hi Ken,

I have always followed the adage "Go where you are celebrated, not  
where you are tolerated".

I am ONLY here in squeak-dev because cuis does not have its own  
mailing list, I wish it did.

Squeak as a social community doesn't just have bad karma, but its  
"leaders" are setting out to generate it because they have totally  
forgotten where we/they were planning to go in the first place.

It might be useful to clearly re-iterate a previously stated goal of  
the old squeak release team, and the board:

The goal of having a minimal kernel images upon which you can build  
and test derived images of your choice.

This goal was so that forks merely become a "build of technical  
preference", on a minimal starting point (eventually "spoon") rather  
than politically charged splinter groups such as Pharo. This goal  
would have enabled us to avoid panicking and getting scared of falling  
behind pharo, but to facilitate exchange of ideas between all forks  
such that pharo becomes a positive part of the squeak story rather  
than an isolated disaffected group.

Perhaps you as the community should be asking what if anything the  
board have done towards this goal.

As for me, you can find me in #cuis on irc.feenode.com if you want to.

Keith

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