SoC February 2007

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Fwd: Google Summer of Code
by Andrew P. Black 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Folks, I've been on the selection committee for the PSU GSoC projects for the last couple of years; one of my colleagues, Bart Massey, is pretty-well tied in with the Google selection process. We will talk on Wednesday, and I'll try and get the inside track on what it will take to get accepted as an organization. Appended is our conversation so far. Andrew Begin forwarded message: > From: Barton C Massey <bart(a)cs.pdx.edu> > Date: 25 February 2007 12:08:24 PST > To: "Andrew P. Black" <black(a)cs.pdx.edu> > Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code > > I think it can't hurt to apply again. I plan to try to bug > Chris, Greg, Leslie and the gang again to try to improve the > org selection process, which is unarguably a bit broken > currently. > > If it doesn't work out, I'd also be willing to put a Squeak > project up for PSU. I need to start getting a project list > together for this year. I'm hoping you'd be willing to be > on the PSU board again this year? > > I want to talk to you about open source stuff in any case > and make some plans. Late Monday afternoon or sometime > Tuesday morning or early afternoon? > > Bart > > In message <7CE5D174-74E2-4DA8-BDC0-656970431695(a)cs.pdx.edu> you > wrote: >> Do you have any insight into whether it is worthwhile for Squeak to >> apply as a mentor organization for GSoC? >> >> Apparently, last year the Squeak Foundation was rejected as being >> "not mainstream", whatever that means. >> >> Andrew

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Status report: mentors, students, project ideas
by Giovanni Corriga 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

Hi all, a quick status report: Projects: we currently have 7 project ideas. I've sent a request on the Seaside mailing list for some Seaside-related ideas, and I've asked Andreas, Tim, and John for some Croquet- and VM-related ideas. Keith, if you want to propose a Pier related project, you should do that now. Likewise, if anyone else wishes to propose a project should speak now. I think we should aim for about 10/12 project ideas, covering a wide range of Squeak-related topics. Students: right now we have 8 students interested in partecipating, with possibly one more that still has to confirm. Mentors: we have 8 mentors (nine with me, in case a ninth student joins us). I'd like to have a couple more spare mentors, as defined here: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforMentors , section "Allocating Resources". Any comments? Giovanni

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I could mentor an Exupery project if there's interest.
by bryce＠kampjes.demon.co.uk 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

I'm happy to mentor a student for either a ESUG or SoC project. The potential projects off the top of my head are: * Profiling and primitive writing * Floating point support * Fast 32 bit integers * A CPU port * A Mac port (John's done some work here, not sure what's remaining) Profiling and primitive writing would involve taking some macro benchmark, say a few crypto kernels, profiling them, figuring out what primitives need to be written to make them perform well, then writing the primitives. Fast 32 bit integers would be useful for crypto. Floating point support and fast 32 bit integers would involve refactoring the handling of arithmetic messages (+, -, /, and *) then writing basic Exupery primitives for them. Then adding a simple optimizer to remove the boxing and deboxing inside statements. The goal would be to allow: a := b + c + d + e. When run on floats or 32 bit integers to only create one object that is stored in a. Then to allow: a at: x put: (b at: x) + (c at: x) To not generate any objects where a, b, and c are float arrays or integer arrays and x is just a SmallInteger index. This should be possible just using type feedback, primitive inlining, and simple tree traversal optimization all of which exist in Exupery now but are not developed enough for this case. A CPU port or a Mac port would require someone with a great background, it should be possible for someone to do in that time frame however I don't see incremental delivery working here so it would require a student who we were confident could deliver the entire thing in the time frame. Bryce

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Squeak mainstream
by Keith Hodges 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

Ideas for the squeak is mainstream projects list, Plopp, DabbleDb, Keith ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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Backup administrator(s)
by Giovanni Corriga 26 Feb '07

26 Feb '07

Hi, Google requires at least one backup administrator. I'll be the primary one (and I don't plan on disappearing ;-) ) I think the admin job will be light - basically, keeping an eye on mentors and students and enforcing deadlines. If anyone wants to volunteer for the job, he should please step up before March 5th. Giovanni

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Re: URGENT: Google Summer of Code 2007 - Help needed
by Giovanni Corriga 26 Feb '07

26 Feb '07

Il giorno ven, 23/02/2007 alle 08.40 -0800, Brian Rice ha scritto: > Hi Giovanni, > > This is to register my interest (after saying so on IRC) in being a > Mentor and helping formulate ideas for projects. Hi Brian, I've added you to the list of possible mentors, but I need to know your Google Account. If you have any ideas, you should propose them now. Giovanni

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Google Accounts
by Giovanni Corriga 26 Feb '07

26 Feb '07

Hi, It's required by Google that all partecipants in the SoC project have Google Accounts. This includes organizers, mentors and students. If you don't have one already, you can get one here: https://www.google.com/accounts/NewAccount . Please note that the Gmail account _is_ a valid Google Account. If you have a Google Account, please list it on the wiki page. Giovanni

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Ideas page
by Giovanni Corriga 26 Feb '07

26 Feb '07

Hi, I've created a separate page for SoC ideas: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5936 . Later I'll add all the ideas you've sent me, plus some more ideas we could have in the coming days. Giovanni

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Re: Ideas for Summertalk
by Giovanni Corriga 26 Feb '07

26 Feb '07

Il giorno sab, 24/02/2007 alle 16.46 +0100, stephane ducasse ha scritto: > Hi > > I do not know what is the strategy: may be we should try to register > as Squeakfoundation or ESUG. > Can you try both? I don't think I can try both - someone else will have to apply for ESUG. > For the topics, > - improving the compiler > - new generation of tools > - traits integration > - native widgets communication > > can be topics? Sure they can. Would you mind fleshing them out a little? Also, would you consider acting as a mentor? Ciao, Giovanni

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Re: URGENT: Google Summer of Code 2007 - Help needed
by Giovanni Corriga 26 Feb '07

26 Feb '07

Il giorno sab, 24/02/2007 alle 01.21 +0100, Yann Monclair ha scritto: > Hi Giovanni, > > IIRC last year we tried to apply to Google's Summer of Code. I think Stephane > Ducasse was involved too. We weren't accepted either as ESUG or SqF, > not being > "mainstream". > I think that was one of the reasons to push forward SummerTalk. > > I think Google SoC is a great initiative, but unfortunately, I don't think > Google will accept Smalltalk projects this year again... I would love to be > proven wrong! > > What I would rather propose, is to build up a great SummerTalk, making great > stuff with motivated students and mentors :) I was part of the first batch of > SummerTalkers in 2006, and I really enjoyed the experience. My mentor was one > of my teachers in University, Bernard Pottier, who is a long time Smalltalker. > > If we build up to a good SummerTalk event each year, then we will stand more > chances to enter google SoC, or maybe we will not even want to get in :) > > I would rather encourage people to offer projects and mentorship (and > sponsoring > if you want to), to ESUG's SummerTalk :) Hi Yann, I think it's worth a try. In case Squeak isn't accepted, we can reuse the SoC Project Ideas for SummerTalk. In case Squeak is accepted, SummerTalk can supplement SoC by funding additional projects. Giovanni

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