Squeak-dev July 2006

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Compressed Sources...need to be fixed
by Marcus Denker 22 Jul '06

22 Jul '06

Hi, In 3.9 (maybe even 3.8?) there is a very cool small hack by Dan Ingalls: Source Compression. | | Description: | CompressedSourceStream writes files as a series of GZipped segments that can be written and read sequentially like | regular source files, and yet remain compressed 4x on the disk. Full sources for Squeak 3.6 fit in 3.5MB. | | Smalltalk compressSources will write a copy of the sources file in this format. Thereafter openSources:forImage: | will look first for such a compressed copy, and open it if found. | Now with everybody complaining about the size of Squeak, I would like to do two things with 3.9: 1) A new sources file. Everything (almost) has been overridden in the changes file, it just makes no sense anymore. 2) Compressing that source file. Dan's code will get us a factor of 4, so we will have 4-5 MB instead of 16. Optionaly, people can always just use the uncompressed sources if they don't like it. The problem now is that the m17n stuff broke the CompressedSourceStream... I guess it's something trivial (like a wrong encoder or something)... but I have no time for checking it. Anyone care to see if it's fixable? We then will have (estimate) the following size for 3.9: .changes: empty .image 14MB .stc ca. 5 MB (compressed sources) (compared to 8.9 + 12.4 + 13.9 for 3.8). Attached is a changeset for writing a new .sources for enabeling to test the compression for real on the new .sources file. Marcus

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ESUG 2006 early registration dead-line is 23rd july
by Noury Bouraqadi 21 Jul '06

21 Jul '06

Dear Smalltalkers, This is the last reminder for early registration to the ESUG 2006 conference. http://www.esug.org/conferences/ 14thinternationalsmalltalkconference2006/registration/ Early bird registration fees apply till 23rd july. See you at Prague, Noury ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Noury Bouraqadi - Enseignant/Chercheur ARMINES - Ecole des Mines de Douai - Dept. G.I.P http://csl.ensm-douai.fr/noury European Smalltalk Users Group Board http://www.esug.org Squeak: a Free Smalltalk http://www.squeak.org ------------------------------------------------------------------

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Portland, Oregon Smalltalk User Group
by Dane Jensen 21 Jul '06

21 Jul '06

Hi all- I've been toying with the thought of starting up a Smalltalk user group here in the sunny city of Portland, Oregon and wanted to get a sense of the level of interest. It's a shame that a city with this much open source activity (yearly host of OSCON, home of the OSDL, and home to more notable people that I can count) should lack such a group. If there's interest, I'll see about getting a mailing list setup (I'd love suggestions on where that should be too) and we can see where it goes from there. -Dane Jensen

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Making phrases in text invisible / visible on a display
by Klaus D. Witzel 21 Jul '06

21 Jul '06

List, I'm looking for a way to make text (phrases thereof) in a display invisible / visible without changing the underlying string. Like for example with an emphasis value #invisible similiar to the existing ones #(normal bold italic narrow underlined struckOut). The effect should be that #invisible emphasized portions of text are *automagically* collapsed to zero width on the display (and/or perhaps an alternate / placeholder symbol is shown instead of the collapsed). Is there already something into that direction which can be reused. If not and anyways: pointers, comments and suggestions all appreciated. Thank you in advance. /Klaus

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[SqNOS] Release 16-Jul-2006: Basic networking is working!
by Gerardo Richarte 20 Jul '06

20 Jul '06

Marcus Denker said: > Very cool... I just tried to run SqueakNOS on Paralles for Mac > (http://www.parallels.com/). > It works! (I have not tried networking, though). I don't think it'll work. I just looked it up, and the virtual ethernet card is an emulated RTL8029, and we are only supporting (now) the AMD Lance PCNet-32 cards (as supported by vmware). RTL8029 is the same card supported by qemu. I'm now working on the driver for RTL8139 (the 100MBits version of the RTL8029), however, the hardware is not compatible, so we'll need a different implementation. May be next? not sure, it's not too complicated... may be the first Device collaborated by someone else? :-) I just looked up what VirtualPC emulates, and it's a DEC 21140 adapter... I'm not sure how easy this one is. oh well... sorry about the lack of devices supported... we'll try to solve the problem with time :-) gera

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[Ann] DuoSystemBrowser
by Roel Wuyts 20 Jul '06

20 Jul '06

Hello people, based on the excellent OmniBrowser framework I recently started working on a new SystemBrowser that is loosely based on the one from VisualWorks. The key feature is found on the two top-left frames: instead of showing categories and classes, as in the normal System Browser, this browser shows Monticello packages and (hierarchies of) classes. Moreover, these panes can be switched in which case the left pane becomes a hierarchy view of whatever classes was selected before, and the second pane shows all the packages this class is defined in or has extensions in. Sounds complicated, right ? Well, it is actually extremely easy to use and a breeze if you ever open hierarchy browsers on a class to see what you are inheriting, or if you use class extensions. Before I continue working on this, I am interested in all kinds of feedback, since if not enough people are interested (positively or negatively) I cannot motivate myself to invest much time :-) Most specifically I am looking for feedback from Monticello experts, since the current implementation of getting packages etc. does not feel right (allthough it works, I only use my browser to develop in, and I use it for publishing to SqueakSource). If you are ready to play with it: find the package named 'DuoSystemBrowser3.9' on SqueakSource. And, yes, it is for Squeak3.9. -- Roel

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Re: [Ann] DuoSystemBrowser
by Bill Schwab 20 Jul '06

20 Jul '06

Roel, IMHO, you are off to a great start. I have never liked the alphabetical list of classes, though for inexplicable reasons, it has bothered me less in Squeak than in other systems. That aside, thanks for doing this. Your context menus are nice too, though I suspect a little incomplete. I particularly like the placement of the browse-it command in the code pane's menu; I use it often and like having it on the first "page" of the menu. Shout would be nice addition. I would prefer to either have the --all-- method category selected by default, or to simply have all methods displayed when no category is selected. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bills(a)anest4.anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029

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Seaside for 3.9 Kernel Image
by Pavel Krivanek 20 Jul '06

20 Jul '06

Hi all, I am able to load and run Seaside in the Squeak 3.9 self-bootstrapped kernel image. It is based on Seaside2.6b1-dc.56 and final image has about 3.7MB. You need - Squeak 7045 (ftp://squeak.org/3.9/Squeak3.9b-7045.zip) - self-bootstrapping environment (http://www.comtalk.net/Squeak/uploads/20/bootstrap7045.zip). - some fixes and Seaside (http://www.comtalk.net/Squeak/uploads/20/seaside.zip) after evaluating of "Bootstrap revert" simply type this: (FileStream readOnlyFileNamed: 'loadSeaside.st') fileIn. Then you can run Seaside with WAKom startOn: 8000. Attention: Console process is not well written now and it blocks processes with lower priority so type for example "(Delay forSeconds: 60) wait" to get one minute for testing or fix it :-) -- Pavel

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Re: Browser, Scriptaculous and ShoreComponents for the kernel image
by Alan Kay 20 Jul '06

20 Jul '06

Finally, someone who knows what the actual original question was! Cheers, Alan ------------ At 12:52 AM 7/20/2006, Philippe Marschall wrote: >2006/7/20, Pavel Krivanek <squeak1(a)continentalbrno.cz>: >>Hi all, >> >>I have ported Browser( to be able to use WABrowser in Seaside), >>Scriptaculous and ShoreComponents to the kernel image. >> >>You can download it here: >>http://www.comtalk.net/Squeak/uploads/20/browser.zip > >This completetly OT but shouldn't it be > >[6 * 9 = 13r42] whileTrue: [World run] > > >Philipe

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All lists at discuss@sqf are migrated
by Marcus Denker 20 Jul '06

20 Jul '06

Hi, All lists at discuss.squeakfoundation.org have been moved over to the mailman installation at lists.squeakfoundation.org. The last batch was vm-dev, packages, modules, v4. Please make sure that you are substribed to the new lists and do *not* post to the old @discuss adresses, but only @lists.squeakfoundation.org. Marcus

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