Hi Pavel!
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Pavel Krivanek squeak1@continentalbrno.cz wrote:
Should Squeak be based on Pharo Kernel and basic packages? There were several discussions on this topic. Technically it is doable but it is politically impassable.
Sure, technically doable. Politically, it clashes with the goal of having a kernel image based on Spoon, which has been the long-term plan for Squeak.
Should Squeak have own Squeak minimal image? How to reach that? Firstly I must say that Squeak Board should anwer this. You and Hannes are not members of the Board.
Well, the Board generally tries to avoid making technical/aspirational decisions of this nature. This is for the community at large to decide. In practice, that means if there are no strenuous objections and if somebody is willing to do the work, the project can go forward.
I can also say that the Board regularly discusses modularity and various options for reducing he size of the core image, so I doubt there will be any objections.
I'm ready to help you with several simple conditions: The image will be official - the next release will simply be this minimal image + packages, the "full" image will always be produced from the minimal image by the build server, the patches will be reviewed by two other persons and integrated quickly. I simply do not want to work on a project with uncertain future. Because from my point of view it is redoing of the same work that I did several times and to look into Squeak is like to look into the past from the remodularization perspective.
Well, as a volunteer for the 4.5 release team, I'd be happy to accept your help, and commit to releasing a core image + an automatically-built full image. This has long been a goal of the Squeak community, we just make slower progress because we're not willing to break existing functionality in Morphic and Etoys.
Thanks for speaking up Pavel, it's good to see you on squeak-dev again!
Colin