On Aug 31, 2005, at 6:05 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
Am 01.09.2005 um 00:12 schrieb Jecel Assumpcao Jr:
In short: the Self world lacked its Andreas and Ian which was the main factor why Self and Squeak followed different paths.
But if you then look at the development of Tweak/Croquet and the latest discussions on the vm-list, it seems they learned their lesson and now are using a much more closed (hostile?) form of development...
Certainly not hostile.
So something clearly did not went the right way with Squeak from their perspective.
Speaking only for myself, I see Croquet development becoming much more of a Bazaar in the future. Also, I don't see Croquet's current Cathedral-ness as being a direct response to perceived difficulties innovating in Squeak. It is the result of many factors, which I won't list because I haven't thought about them enough (since I think the situation is temporary anyway).
Josh
One thing that the Traits discussion again has shown that it is very hard to innovate in Squeak. There is a huge hostility against doing new things, even if the alternative is complete standstill.
Marcus