On 25 juil. 06, at 06:15, Peace Jerome wrote:
Squeak Maintainence and Condensed Sources
Hi Marcus,
Thank you for your first reply to Condensed Sources vs. Squeak Maintainence
To restate the essesnce of my concern:
I believe a great deal of code will rot and squeak will become a lot more fragile than it already is if you compress sources now in the process of finalizing 3.9.
Why do you say that kind of thing? I really do not get it. This is not true.
I understand your concern about the changes file going over its limit.
I also understand the great deal of effort you and stef have put it to 3.9 to date. And that getting things done has largely relied on your time and effort. Easy to implement solutions would be appreciated I imagine?
First the task of getting a 3.10 with all changes from 3.9 would start with '3.9a with all changes from 3.0' that Doug Way (bless his heart) produced after I said please three times in one post.
But this will not scale!
Second condensed sources should come at the beginning of an alpha cycle not at an end.
So you will not get a true condense version but one with all the changes from that version.
So one alternative is to condense sources with the first version of 3.9 alpha (or the 3.8 version just before that name change. And produce a 3.9 with all changes from 3.8 (condensed) source. That would not be as nice but it would at least be acceptable.
You and Stef have been given arbitrary authority to determine how 3.9 gets made. The consequences of how you choose to use that authority and what decisions you make affects the whole community.
But are you serious? Do you want us to deliver a system that you CANNOT use? Because you cannot even load any decent package? Is it really what you want?
I see several of those decisions as increasing the brittleness of squeak and I am voicing my concerns. I ask only that you do your best to address them.
Have you checked the number of bug fixes that we integrated/took care? Instead of complaining like that the only way to go is: - build a simple infrastructure so that we can browse any code version - fix the limit of the 32Mb
There are no other choice
Stef