Anything is fine as long as SimpleMorphic will be the default in the future and the FullMorphic may be loaded on top of it (or by replacing it).
I think at this very moment it is not so much a discussion Metacello vs. Squeakmap but rather: Is it possible to load SimpleMorphic and what needs to be done to make it good enough for carrying the workload for developing in Squeak. And then the next question: can we put FullMorphic into squeaksource and make it possible to reload it from there.
BTW what do I need to do to load SimpleMorphic as of now?
--Hannes
On 4/2/11, Casey Ransberger casey.obrien.r@gmail.com wrote:
This is also a great idea. Andreas decided he didn't like his implementation and we haven't really followed up since. I actually think it wouldn't hurt to use the same underlying system that Pharo is using (Metacello) if it works today, but I may be in the Minority on this one.
Chris Muller has made some pretty compelling arguments about using SqueakMap, which is also worth mentioning as a possible solution.
On Apr 1, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Levente Uzonyi leves@elte.hu wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
On 31.03.2011, at 21:15, David T. Lewis wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 08:00:08PM +0200, Bal?zs K?si wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Casey Ransberger casey.obrien.r@gmail.com wrote:
I'd like to reverse this statement. In the longer term I'd like to see SimpleMorphic into the core system, and get LegacyMorphic or BigMorphic or whatever we'd call it out of the core and into Squeaksource.
I think we could do even better: Make all the ui frameworks loadable and unloadable, and make it easy to implement your own.
Bal?zs
Yes!
Dave
Not quite a plan yet, but great idea!
The old FullMorphic could be maintained as part of Etoys.
Another possible solution is to implement Andreas' idea about Community Supported Packages* (which slight modifications) and maintain it there. Of course, it has to be made unloadable/loadable first.
Levente
*http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-May/150658.html
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